National Rookie/Pre Season Draft 2009

[lions_girl_4life]

My internet radio cut out

[blackyismyboy]

Same.

[lions_girl_4life]

It was making my internet slow trying to reconnect so I gave up on it

[blackyismyboy]

So what's gonna happen with us in the Preseason Draft?

[b_lions16]

So what's gonna happen with us in the Preseason Draft?
Liam Patrick, FTW. ;)

[b_lions16]

THE recycled players, the shocks, the romance picks and everything else you need to know from the 2009 AFL Draft.

RECYCLED
Before last night only 15 delisted AFL players in four years had found themselves a new home via the AFL Draft.
So it was no surprise that of the 51 seasoned players to nominate, only Luke Ball (Collingwood), Rhan Hooper (Hawthorn), Jesse Smith (St Kilda), Adam Pattison (St Kilda), Simon Buckley (Collingwood) and Matt Maguire (Brisbane Lions) were given a second chance.
The rest will be made to endure a nervous wait before the pre-season and rookie drafts on December 15.
SOMETHING IN THE WATER
Geelong Falcons added further gloss to its reputation as the country's most prolific feeder club, having five players picked inside the top 40.
Ben Cunnington, Gary Rohan, Jasper McMillan-Pittard, Allen Christensen and Callum Bartlett were all snapped up last night. The TAC Cup outfit has now produced 75 of the 1536 players selected in the AFL Draft.
THE SHOCK
Andrew Moore came from the clouds to land at Port Adelaide at pick 9 in a move no one saw coming.
Power's decision to nab the Eastern Ranges utility turned the draft upside down and sent Kane Lucas slipping down the pecking order.
LAST MAN STANDING
Biggest sigh of relief? Put your hand up Bryce Retzlaff. With the draft speeding to a conclusion, the kid from Labrador in Queensland would have thought his chances were as good as cooked.
And then the Brisbane Lions swooped with the 84th and last non-rookie promoted pick.
PACK YOUR BAGS
Of the 78 hopefuls drafted, 25 were plucked from clubs outside their home states.
LONG ODDS
A whopping 1367 players nominated for the draft. Yesterday they had less than a six per cent chance of even getting their foot in the door at an AFL club.
RAIDED
A total of 36 draftees came from Victoria, 13 from Western Australia, nine from South Australia and four from Tasmania.
THE CURSE
Spare a thought for Anton Woods, who last night became the latest Morrish Medal winner to be left disappointed on draft day.
Woods was overlooked, meaning five of the last seven kids judged best player in the TAC Cup have not been drafted.
THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT
At 208cm, new Melbourne ruckman Max Gawn towers over his fellow draftees. While he stands 3cm shorter than Fremantle giant Aaron Sandilands, he has grown 8cm in the past year so catching the Docker is not out of the question.
Gawn is considered a long-term prospect, but when he gets caught holding the ball the fans will know what to say: "Gawn!"
THE ROMANCE PICKS
Nicholas Winmar is a free-running midfielder from WA. Sound familiar? The second cousin of the legendary Nicky Winmar was fittingly taken by St Kilda at 32. Seconds later, Essendon drafted the nephew of favourite son Michael Long, Anthony Long at pick 33.
DOUBTING THOMAS
Broadbeach youngster Josh Thomas did a Dayne Beams and nominated for this draft, rather than wait for his local side Gold Coast to nab him.
It was worth it, too. Collingwood landed the midfielder at pick 75.
BEWARE KING TUTT
Defender Jason Tutt joined Swans co-captain Craig Bolton as the only player from the nation’s capital on an AFL list after being taken by the Western Bulldogs at No.31. Back in 1990 another unknown boy hailing from Ainslie was drafted with pick No.79. His name was James Hird.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,26405801-5016169,00.html

[lions_girl_4life]

Some interesting stuff there

[blackyismyboy]

Why would Bryce Retzlaff be relieved?

Interesting read.

[b_lions16]

Why would Bryce Retzlaff be relieved?
Last non-rookie player taken.

[blackyismyboy]

True ey.

[lions_girl_4life]

Never heard of him before the time his name was announced

[sportzo]

How is Bartlett injury prone? He has never had an injury in his whole life until he had extremly bad luck and injured his knee just before the season started(the most important season yet mind you) and needed a knee reco!

[lions_girl_4life]

I guess we are worried about the fact he hurt his knee and don't want a relapse

[Hayley]

Do we get any picks in the pre season draft or whatever?

[lions_girl_4life]

That's what I was wondering

[Anzac]

Do we get any picks in the pre season draft or whatever?

i dont think so, u had to skip picking Maguire to have I think

unless u delist someone else

[lions_girl_4life]

That's what I thought

[blackyismyboy]

So we don't have another draft to look forward to?

[lions_girl_4life]

Not as far as I know

[b_lions16]

So we don't have another draft to look forward to?
We will have picks in the Rookie, I think...but we need to delist someone to get a PSD. So I say...START THE CULL! :D

[lions_girl_4life]

Who though?

[b_lions16]

Who though?
I've always wanted Stiller to piss off...

[Hayley]

We will have picks in the Rookie, I think...but we need to delist someone to get a PSD. So I say...START THE CULL! :D

Yeah, we need to get rid of Brown, Black and Power, they're weighing us down WAY too much.

[lions_girl_4life]

Yeah..Definately ;)

[Hayley]

BRISBANE: They want players for now. Jesse O’Brien was always going to be a later pick. They’ve taken a Michael Voss tough, inside player in Callum Bartlett. Matt Maguire was no big surprise, given what the Lions did during trade week.

source (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-recruiting-manager-scott-clayton-rates-your-clubs-draft/story-fn4hg9de-1225804354655)

Sorry if it's already been posted, I cbf looking back through pages and pages.

[lions_girl_4life]

Love the description of Callum :)

[RoyBoys]

My two favourite picks

Brycy Retzlaff a smokey and a star midfielder named callum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziZDl5fzDb8

Bryce Retzlaff have a look at this kid will be a star IMO..great hands, leads well and is a good kick if he can put on some kgs then he will be a quality key position player


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLxiAD9Knjw

Callum Bartlett speed, skill looks like he will be one classy midfielder

I am happy with maguire aswell still young at 25 only if he can get his body right..

[b_lions16]

I like the look of Retzlaff...if he can put some beef on, he will be our next CHF when Brown leaves and form a great partnership with AC. From Labrador too, so the 'Go-Home Factor' won't kick in. ;) And if the old saying 'Lucky Last' proves to be right, then we should have another diamond in the rough. :)

[lions_girl_4life]

We've been pretty lucky when it comes to the 'go home' factor... ONly Magnet falling victim to it, and for an example of it never coming into play, look at Blacky :)

[LionsGalSA]

for the PSD if we are not getting Skip its nor worth it :p

[lions_girl_4life]

Have we even got a pick for the PSD?

[LionsGalSA]

not unless we delist one from now till then

[dan7]

I didn't know we had to delist. But I think we should chase Luke Ablett and Sam Power.
Sam wants to play with Luke - he'd love it here in Brisbane and would return to form.
Luke Ablett is worth a go - he might go great?
If that means we have to delist Matt Austin and Tom Collier, then so be it.

[NapalmDth]

:eek::eek: Lay off the crack. Sam Power is an absolute spud. As for Ablett, mentally flakey. He will play for GC, doubt he'd come to us. GC will pay him a damned site more than we can afford to. Losing Austin would be a real waste as the kid has serious potential. Collier less so than Austin imo, but still, he's a damned site better than Sam Power. I'd rather we got Wayde Mills back to S. Power that's how highly I rate Sam.

[b_lions16]

I didn't know we had to delist. But I think we should chase Luke Ablett and Sam Power.
Sam wants to play with Luke - he'd love it here in Brisbane and would return to form.
Luke Ablett is worth a go - he might go great?
If that means we have to delist Matt Austin and Tom Collier, then so be it.
No way mate...Austin is gunna be a bloody superstar and you everyone here knows it! I have been pumping the boy up ever since he was drafted in 2007 and I officially claimed him as my mancrush...no-one elses! (I'm looking at you, Worbs)
Collier is also gunna become a good player and should play more games next year which will see his development come along nicely.
Sam Power and Luke Ablett are living in the shadows of their namesake. :D

[b_lions16]

Brisbane Lions
The Lions swung one of the surprises of the draft when they picked Matt Maguire with pick 91, stopping Carlton from taking him in the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft. The Lions also grabbed midfielders with their first three picks. Callum Bartlett was one of the most intriguing prospects in the draft, having spent all year out after a knee reconstruction. The Lions had to wait until pick 27 to take the quick, goalkicking onballer, who loomed as a possible first-round selection despite the season-ending injury. Tassie clearance specialist Ryan Harwood has been brought in to help out at the coalface while SA lad Jesse O'Brien is a dasher who can break the lines.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87598/default.aspx

[christicehurst]

I away for a day but was surprised to see everyone covering for me and getting the forum to 500 posts on Draft day, well done! Some interesting picks we got and this will only increased membership for us as the new year comes.

[NapalmDth]

I away for a day but was surprised to see everyone covering for me and getting the forum to 500 posts on Draft day, well done! Some interesting picks we got and this will only increased membership for us as the new year comes.

No Chris. The new memberships will be because of the logo/jumper change ;)

[b_lions16]

GEELONG Falcon Joe Dare and Northern Knight Dylan Grimes will be among the leading contenders in the NAB AFL Pre-Season/Rookie Drafts, after they were surprisingly overlooked in Thursday night's NAB AFL Draft.

Dare and Grimes, both defenders, were expected to be claimed in the top 50 at worst, but some shock early selections forced clubs to change tack.

The pair is nevertheless expected to begin training with an AFL club reasonably quickly, with sides now turning their attentions to the December drafts, when 60-plus players will find their way onto AFL lists.

Northern Territorian Liam Patrick (the cousin of Melbourne's Liam Jurrah) was also overlooked, despite bolting into contention after some exciting performances with Wanderers in the NTFL.

An 185cm tall with an outstanding vertical leap. Patrick has been playing ruck despite his lack of height and appears a likely target for several clubs in the upcoming drafts.

Sudanese-born Majak Daw, a 194cm tall athlete with Nic Naitanui-like qualities, was another to miss out on Thursday, with North Melbourne understood to have been interested.

Many clubs view Daw as a classic rookie - with raw, natural talent which needs to be nurtured in the AFL system.

From South Australia, key forward Matthew Panos, Derick Wanganeen (the cousin of 1993 Brownlow Medallist Gavin) and ruckman Jack Hannath were unlucky to miss.

Panos had an outstanding NAB AFL under-18 championship - he was All-Australian - and is sure to come under notice as a rookie.

VFL stars Michael Barlow (Werribee) and Sam Iles (ex-Collingwood) are also near-certain future rookies.

Also likely to attract interest from Victoria are Mitch Fisher (Geelong Falcons), Josh Donaldson (West Perth), Jack Weston (Gippsland Power), Serhat Temel (Calder Cannons), Andrew Hooper (North Ballarat Rebels) and Josh Dyson (Eastern Ranges).

New rules allowing clubs to add at least two players older than 23 years old open the door for some experienced hands.

In theory, players such as former Demon Russell Robertson, ex-Tiger Mark Couglan and 2005 premiership player Luke Ablett could become rookies.

Other players with AFL experience set to be in contention as mature rookies include Mitch Thorp, Kane Tenace, Cameron Cloke, Scott Harding and Sam Power.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87585/default.aspx
VERY SURPISED Panos didn't get snapped up...he was going top 30 in my Phantom Draft. Hopefully we pick up Liam Patrick, Andy Hooper or Majak Daw in the Rookie Draft. BTW, I also reckon we should delist someone (i.e, Stiller), so we can get a PSD Pick becuase whoever we get will be better than Cheynee and there are some good prospects out there. ;)

[blackyismyboy]

How many picks do we get in the Rookie Draft? I never really paid much attention to it in previous years, so I'm not sure how it all works.

[b_lions16]

How many picks do we get in the Rookie Draft? I never really paid much attention to it in previous years, so I'm not sure how it all works.
Held at the same time as the pre-season draft, the rookie draft is a chance for clubs to recruit players under 23 for their Rookie list. Rookies are usually picked as young, developing players and can be elevated from the rookie list during the year, if there is a long term injury or retirement to a senior player in the team. Once the rookie is elevated, he remains that way until the end of the year, where they can be officially upgraded to the senior list, or kept on as a second year rookie, or delisted/not offered a new contract. Most teams have 6 rookies, but Brisbane and Sydney have more, and other teams may have more or less depending on the number of veterans on their list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_Draft#Rookie_draft
I couldn't be bothered so I got it from wiki. :D
So basically, I think we have the same picks we do in the National Draft but mostly clubs 'Pass' most of 'em because they are usually shit and useless. ;)

[b_lions16]

BRISBANE picked up young midfielder Callum Bartlett and took a chance on former Saint Matt Maguire in this year's draft.

Picks

27. CALLUM BARTLETT Geelong Falcons
Midfielder, 18, 179cm, 75kg
A goalkicking midfielder and a fine user of the ball, he missed the 2009 season after a knee reconstruction. Has been compared to Luke Power.

47. RYAN HARWOOD Tassie Mariners
Midfielder, 18, 183cm, 81kg The leading clearance player in this year's under-18 championships, he spent time at Arden St during his AIS-AFL Academy stint. Excellent agility.

73. JESSE O'BRIEN North Adelaide
Wingman, 18, 184cm, 71kg
Dashing midfielder who has the ability to break a game open with his run. Smart player with good awareness through traffic, has quick hands and sound endurance. SA under-18 representative.

84. BRYCE RETZLAFF Labrador (Qld)
91. MATT MAGUIRE St Kilda
95. PEARCE HANLEY Rookie elevation

Brisbane Lions recruiting manager Graeme Hadley
''Matt (Maguire) can offer a lot to our club as he could to any club. He'll get opportunities both shorter and longer term as a key defender, both shorter and longer term, a proven key defender.
''We think that we've met most of the coach's requirements. We put some mids in there today and a couple of taller players, key position potential in the back end. We're very happy as a club.''

Gold Coast recruiting manager Scott Clayton
"They want players for now. Jesse O’Brien was always going to be a later pick. They’ve taken a Michael Voss tough, inside player in Callum Bartlett. Matt Maguire was no big surprise, given what the Lions did during trade week." http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,26406497-5016181,00.html

[blackyismyboy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_Draft#Rookie_draft
I couldn't be bothered so I got it from wiki. :D
So basically, I think we have the same picks we do in the National Draft but mostly clubs 'Pass' most of 'em because they are usually shit and useless. ;)

Haha, thanks Scotty.

[Hayley]

I'm suprised Mitch Thorp or Kane Tenace didn't get picked up last night...

[christicehurst]

What's the next draft about? I'm confused with the old and new players being picked up.

[miloman]

would the lions be interested in kane tenace, he has got a bit of pace doesnt he.

[lions_girl_4life]

I wonder who we will get

[b_lions16]

would the lions be interested in kane tenace, he has got a bit of pace doesnt he.
I'm definitely interested in him because when you get taken Pick 7, no matter how shit you are, you still have some good potential to go that high in the Draft.
I think we should take the punt on Robbo, still. ;)

[lions_girl_4life]

Either way we will have a strong team next year

[RoyBoys]

Guys the PSD is where all the recycled players can be picked up Lions do not have a PSD pick we had to pass in the national draft in order to have a PSD pick..but we picked Mcguire at 91 so no PSD pick for us. But we do have 6 spots available on our rookie list and Voss could look at picking up to 6 rookies in the rookie draft if he wishes. Two different drafts run on the same day!!

[RoyBoys]

Any player picked in the national or preseason draft must be placed on the senior list we don't have anymore spots available on the senior list..but we have 6 places available on our rookie list. Only four clubs will participate in the PSD Melbourne Sydney Fremantle and Richmond.

[lions_girl_4life]

Bloody hell... The whole Pre Season draft is confusing

[blackyismyboy]

Thanks for explaining that a bit RoyBoys.

[lions_girl_4life]

Yeah, it's a bit clearer now...

[b_lions16]

Basically, we don't have a PSD Pick and only have Rookie Draft Picks.
IMO, hope we get either Daw or Patrick, both tall utilities with freakish skills. ;)

[Jedstheman]

Oh we have untill Dec 3rd i think to delist more players thus giving us list spots don't count the PSD out yet all................... swing the axe Vossy.................. Stormboy Goneski:rolleyes:

[b_lions16]

Oh we have untill Dec 3rd i think to delist more players thus giving us list spots don't count the PSD out yet al...................l swing the axe Vossy.................. Stormboy Goneski:rolleyes:
Haha, quickly becomin' ya whipping boy, Jedda. ;)
Stiller should go, IMO...

[Jedstheman]

Haha, quickly becomin' ya whipping boy, Jedda. ;)
Stiller should go, IMO...


Do you think he will delist anymore players 16?

[b_lions16]

Do you think he will delist anymore players 16?
There's really no one to delist ATM...we have no rookies...Stiller, McColloch and Banfield look the most vulnerable at the moment but aside from that, I don't reckon we'll delist anyone and probably won't have a pick in the PSD.

[LionsGalSA]

we are done for the drafting apart from Rookies i think

[b_lions16]

GEELONG Falcons regional manager Mick Turner would be staggered if his best-and-fairest defender - Joe Dare - does not win a spot on a rookie list after being overlooked in Thursday night's draft.
Five youngsters from the Geelong Falcons were selected in the draft, with Dare left stranded when clubs began opting for recycled AFL talent late in the draft.
The defender's hope that he would be packing to leave the Colac family farm had been fuelled by Turner, who called him after the draft to sympathise.
''Everybody I spoke to, including the AFL, [said] that he would go in the 30s mark, so to miss the draft completely surprised me,'' Turner said, adding Dare needed some space and time to gather his thoughts.
''I had him marked down as a definite draft prospect. I told him that he would get drafted because of the indications that I had.
''The first thing that I had to do when I got on the phone was just apologise for the fact that I thought he would get drafted.
''Joe's a bit of a late maturer,'' said Turner. ''If you'd asked him six months ago he would've said he was going to be a dairy farmer for the rest of his life.
''I'd be staggered if clubs weren't looking at him for the rookie draft.''
Turner has made some painful phone calls to young Falcons not drafted in his time as regional manager.
"He [Dare] is probably feeling shithouse at the moment,'' Turner said. ''For some kids, if they're not handled the right way, they can be a bit touchy.
''My first calls after the draft is finished are to the kids who don't get drafted. When Luke Hodge got drafted at No. 1 [in 2001], my first call was to Dominic Gleeson, who missed the draft and is now captain of Werribee.''
There were 1367 nominations for the '09 draft, with 95 numbers called.
The Northern Knights' Anton Woods became the fifth of the last seven Morrish medallists (for the TAC Cup best and fairest), to miss out on the draft.
Other players unlucky not be drafted were Northern Knights defender Dylan Grimes, South Australia's Matthew Panos and Calder Cannons forward Serhat Temel.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/clubs-dared-to-overlook-falcon-20091128-jy22.html

[RoyBoys]

As an AFL rookie-listed player, the only financial stipulation is that a minimum wage of $35,000 must be paid, but there is no maximum, and that amount is not included in a club's salary cap. These players can play in the pre-season competition or be promoted as a long-term injury replacement player during the home and away season. New rules allow clubs to add at least two players older than 23 years old open the door for some experienced hands. In theory, players such as former Demon Russell Robertson, ex-Tiger Mark Couglan and 2005 premiership player Luke Ablett could become rookies.

This is our list so far Vossy can choose up to nine rookies for next season!!

BRISBANE LIONS
1. Adcock, Jed
2. Austin, Matt
3. Banfield, Todd
4. Bartlett, Callum
5. Black, Simon (veteran - outside list)
6. Brennan, Jared
7. Brown, Jonathan
8. Buchanan, Amon
9. Charman, Jamie
10. Clark, Mitchell
11. Clarke, Xavier
12. Collier, Tom
13. Cornelius, Aaron
14. Drummond, Josh
15. Fevola, Brendan
16. Hanley, Pearce
17. Harwood, Ryan
18. Hawksley, James
19. Johnstone, Travis
20. Leuenberger, Matthew
21. Maguire, Matt
22. McCulloch, Bart
23. McGrath, Ashley
24. Merrett, Daniel
25. O'Brien, Jesse
26. Patfull, Joel
27. Polkinghorne, James
28. Power, Luke (veteran - outside list)
29. Proud, Albert
30. Raines, Andrew
31. Redden, Jack
32. Retzlaff, Bryce
33. Rich, Daniel
34. Rischitelli, Michael
35. Rockliff, Tom
36. Selwood, Troy
37. Sheldon, Sam
38. Sherman, Justin
39. Staker, Brent
40. Stiller, Cheynee
Rookie list
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6.
7.
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9.

[b_lions16]

We should choose 6...9 would be a list-clogger, IMO...and use one of them to re-draft King because that bloke is gunna become an absolute gem and everyone here knows it.
Also, we should take a look @ Patrick and Daw who were surprisingly overlooked...and not to metion Panos who I reckoned woulda gone Top 20 to 30 given his good TAC Cup Series.

[RoyBoys]

The only problem is Gold Coast gets the first 5 picks in the Rookie draft then Melbourne comes in at 6..

[lions_girl_4life]

is this for this years rookie draft or next years ?

[NapalmDth]

We should choose 6...9 would be a list-clogger, IMO...and use one of them to re-draft King because that bloke is gunna become an absolute gem and everyone here knows it.
Also, we should take a look @ Patrick and Daw who were surprisingly overlooked...and not to metion Panos who I reckoned woulda gone Top 20 to 30 given his good TAC Cup Series.

Word is King's had medical advice that is career ending hence his delisting :(

[blackyismyboy]

Word is King's had medical advice that is career ending hence his delisting :(

Wow, medical advice regarding what exactly?

[b_lions16]

Word is King's had medical advice that is career ending hence his delisting :(
That's a blow, because that boy had massive potential especially being 400m Sprint champion in his Age Division...he could've turned out great for us as a small goalsneak...that's really sad that's happened to him.

[BrisLions]

Clearly I haven't been on the site for a week and just reading through previous posts for draft time you guys obviously don't know a lot about the draft or the players involved.

Firstly no one has really mentioned a lot about Callum Bartlett and were disappointed that we missed Luke Ball YOU IDIOTS. Callum Bartlett is an absolute gem and we get him for a steal (Pick#27 and only 52000 base salary). He is a quick, evasive, goal kicking midfielder something we haven't had since Black was in his prime (2001-2003 not saying that he isn't a good player now but he was a star then). Also we don't have the money to fit Luke Ball in with Matt McGuire and the possibility of Sam Power as a mature age rookie not to mention the kids we took and Niall McKeever who we just signed.

Secondly you clearly don't understand Ryan Harwood. It seems to me that you guys think that he will be like Luke Power (Clean Feet, good ball getter) not the case. He is more of a Troy Selwood or Andrew Moore (Pick #8) in that he is a hard at the ball, rough as houses, Dertimined Tasmanian. He is not gonna get 30 disposals but he may get that in and under and get us a vital clearance.

This is the same with Jesse O'Brien, he won't get you 35 disposals but will provide excellent run-and-carry and if he builds his body up will be similar to Morabito. Also Jack Trengove rates him, (Same team) so I am pleased.

I personally don't know much about Bryce Reckshlaff (Terrible Spelling I know) other than he bloomed late and could provide an excellent partnership with Aaron Cornelius.

Also I don't know why Matt McGuire isn't being mentioned much. This guy is an absolute gem and almost as bigger deal as Luke Ball. He just hasn't had the same media coverage so you guys don't think he is much. He will be an absolute rock in defence and will allow Patfull and McGrath and Drummond to run off their man knowing he will have them.

Also as for the rookie draft our first priority should't be Majak Daw or Liam Patrick. They honestly aren't that amazing they just do the freak stuff now and again Like Jurrah. If we can get them late, so be it but our first priorities should be Matthew Panos (All-Australian), Joe Dare and I rate Joseph Groenowegen and Andrew Hooper who are both Half-Backs. Andrew Hooper is big bodied (Stocky) and could provide an extra mask to go with Merrett.

Anyway I think we should take Sam Power and Cameron Cloke as mature age rookies if we have the money. It is agreed that Sam Power is not the best user of the ball though he is a ball magnet and if Luke can teach him how to use it better he could be a steal. Also we have very fragile ruckmen and we don't really have a third tall forward so Cameron Cloke could be useful if we get him late in the rookie. A

Lastly why did we go for Jesse O'Brien when Josh Thomas was still available, UGGGGHHHH. One for the ages. Jesse O'Brien is a good player though Josh Thomas is in the Simon Black mould.

[blackyismyboy]

Also I don't know why Matt McGuire isn't being mentioned much. This guy is an absolute gem and almost as bigger deal as Luke Ball. He just hasn't had the same media coverage so you guys don't think he is much.

Lol, have you read the guy's thread? All of us can't wait to see this guy in action because we know he's gonna be an awesome addition to our team.

Anyways, I liked reading your two-cents BrisLions.

[Jedstheman]

Clearly I haven't been on the site for a week and just reading through previous posts for draft time you guys obviously don't know a lot about the draft or the players involved.

Firstly no one has really mentioned a lot about Callum Bartlett and were disappointed that we missed Luke Ball YOU IDIOTS. Callum Bartlett is an absolute gem and we get him for a steal (Pick#27 and only 52000 base salary). He is a quick, evasive, goal kicking midfielder something we haven't had since Black was in his prime (2001-2003 not saying that he isn't a good player now but he was a star then). Also we don't have the money to fit Luke Ball in with Matt McGuire and the possibility of Sam Power as a mature age rookie not to mention the kids we took and Niall McKeever who we just signed.

Secondly you clearly don't understand Ryan Harwood. It seems to me that you guys think that he will be like Luke Power (Clean Feet, good ball getter) not the case. He is more of a Troy Selwood or Andrew Moore (Pick #8) in that he is a hard at the ball, rough as houses, Dertimined Tasmanian. He is not gonna get 30 disposals but he may get that in and under and get us a vital clearance.

This is the same with Jesse O'Brien, he won't get you 35 disposals but will provide excellent run-and-carry and if he builds his body up will be similar to Morabito. Also Jack Trengove rates him, (Same team) so I am pleased.

I personally don't know much about Bryce Reckshlaff (Terrible Spelling I know) other than he bloomed late and could provide an excellent partnership with Aaron Cornelius.

Also I don't know why Matt McGuire isn't being mentioned much. This guy is an absolute gem and almost as bigger deal as Luke Ball. He just hasn't had the same media coverage so you guys don't think he is much. He will be an absolute rock in defence and will allow Patfull and McGrath and Drummond to run off their man knowing he will have them.

Also as for the rookie draft our first priority should't be Majak Daw or Liam Patrick. They honestly aren't that amazing they just do the freak stuff now and again Like Jurrah. If we can get them late, so be it but our first priorities should be Matthew Panos (All-Australian), Joe Dare and I rate Joseph Groenowegen and Andrew Hooper who are both Half-Backs. Andrew Hooper is big bodied (Stocky) and could provide an extra mask to go with Merrett.

Anyway I think we should take Sam Power and Cameron Cloke as mature age rookies if we have the money. It is agreed that Sam Power is not the best user of the ball though he is a ball magnet and if Luke can teach him how to use it better he could be a steal. Also we have very fragile ruckmen and we don't really have a third tall forward so Cameron Cloke could be useful if we get him late in the rookie. A

Lastly why did we go for Jesse O'Brien when Josh Thomas was still available, UGGGGHHHH. One for the ages. Jesse O'Brien is a good player though Josh Thomas is in the Simon Black mould.



Sam Power would just be getting drafted to us because of his brother and if he has not learnt how to kick a ball straight after being in the system for a while now Luke aint gunna be able to help him dude and if he does get drafted I can see him being a state level star and nothing else and as for the Goose comment read a bit more Buddy as I for one said it was a masterstroke by Voss snaring him and adds alot of depth to our defence freeing up Joel Platful and all.................You gotta do what I do mate call poeple out onthere posts if its full of Crap and tell em about it:D make it personal as it sounds like you are saying the masses here do not know much.

[NapalmDth]

Clearly I haven't been on the site for a week and just reading through previous posts for draft time you guys obviously don't know a lot about the draft or the players involved.

Firstly no one has really mentioned a lot about Callum Bartlett and were disappointed that we missed Luke Ball YOU IDIOTS. Callum Bartlett is an absolute gem and we get him for a steal (Pick#27 and only 52000 base salary). He is a quick, evasive, goal kicking midfielder something we haven't had since Black was in his prime (2001-2003 not saying that he isn't a good player now but he was a star then). Also we don't have the money to fit Luke Ball in with Matt McGuire and the possibility of Sam Power as a mature age rookie not to mention the kids we took and Niall McKeever who we just signed.

Secondly you clearly don't understand Ryan Harwood. It seems to me that you guys think that he will be like Luke Power (Clean Feet, good ball getter) not the case. He is more of a Troy Selwood or Andrew Moore (Pick #8) in that he is a hard at the ball, rough as houses, Dertimined Tasmanian. He is not gonna get 30 disposals but he may get that in and under and get us a vital clearance.

This is the same with Jesse O'Brien, he won't get you 35 disposals but will provide excellent run-and-carry and if he builds his body up will be similar to Morabito. Also Jack Trengove rates him, (Same team) so I am pleased.

I personally don't know much about Bryce Reckshlaff (Terrible Spelling I know) other than he bloomed late and could provide an excellent partnership with Aaron Cornelius.

Also I don't know why Matt McGuire isn't being mentioned much. This guy is an absolute gem and almost as bigger deal as Luke Ball. He just hasn't had the same media coverage so you guys don't think he is much. He will be an absolute rock in defence and will allow Patfull and McGrath and Drummond to run off their man knowing he will have them.

Also as for the rookie draft our first priority should't be Majak Daw or Liam Patrick. They honestly aren't that amazing they just do the freak stuff now and again Like Jurrah. If we can get them late, so be it but our first priorities should be Matthew Panos (All-Australian), Joe Dare and I rate Joseph Groenowegen and Andrew Hooper who are both Half-Backs. Andrew Hooper is big bodied (Stocky) and could provide an extra mask to go with Merrett.

Anyway I think we should take Sam Power and Cameron Cloke as mature age rookies if we have the money. It is agreed that Sam Power is not the best user of the ball though he is a ball magnet and if Luke can teach him how to use it better he could be a steal. Also we have very fragile ruckmen and we don't really have a third tall forward so Cameron Cloke could be useful if we get him late in the rookie. A

Lastly why did we go for Jesse O'Brien when Josh Thomas was still available, UGGGGHHHH. One for the ages. Jesse O'Brien is a good player though Josh Thomas is in the Simon Black mould.

Hrm.. lets see.. who's drafting knowledge would I trust more.. yours or Graeme Hadleys :rolleyes:

[sportzo]

Mate im preety sure im the one that has been going on about Bartlett for ages(everyone can back me up ifyou go backpages in a few threads before the draft). I am very happy that we got him. Also im quite certain that it was you before the draft when I said I really hope we get him and you said he had a knee reco and now your pumping him up:eek: I feel like swearing but Iwon't so instead, buzzz off!

[lions_girl_4life]

We haven't mentioned McGuire much? From the second we got him, we were stoked.

[b_lions16]

Clearly I haven't been on the site for a week and just reading through previous posts for draft time you guys obviously don't know a lot about the draft or the players involved.

Firstly no one has really mentioned a lot about Callum Bartlett and were disappointed that we missed Luke Ball YOU IDIOTS. Callum Bartlett is an absolute gem and we get him for a steal (Pick#27 and only 52000 base salary). He is a quick, evasive, goal kicking midfielder something we haven't had since Black was in his prime (2001-2003 not saying that he isn't a good player now but he was a star then). Also we don't have the money to fit Luke Ball in with Matt McGuire and the possibility of Sam Power as a mature age rookie not to mention the kids we took and Niall McKeever who we just signed.

Secondly you clearly don't understand Ryan Harwood. It seems to me that you guys think that he will be like Luke Power (Clean Feet, good ball getter) not the case. He is more of a Troy Selwood or Andrew Moore (Pick #8) in that he is a hard at the ball, rough as houses, Dertimined Tasmanian. He is not gonna get 30 disposals but he may get that in and under and get us a vital clearance.

This is the same with Jesse O'Brien, he won't get you 35 disposals but will provide excellent run-and-carry and if he builds his body up will be similar to Morabito. Also Jack Trengove rates him, (Same team) so I am pleased.

I personally don't know much about Bryce Reckshlaff (Terrible Spelling I know) other than he bloomed late and could provide an excellent partnership with Aaron Cornelius.

Also I don't know why Matt McGuire isn't being mentioned much. This guy is an absolute gem and almost as bigger deal as Luke Ball. He just hasn't had the same media coverage so you guys don't think he is much. He will be an absolute rock in defence and will allow Patfull and McGrath and Drummond to run off their man knowing he will have them.

Also as for the rookie draft our first priority should't be Majak Daw or Liam Patrick. They honestly aren't that amazing they just do the freak stuff now and again Like Jurrah. If we can get them late, so be it but our first priorities should be Matthew Panos (All-Australian), Joe Dare and I rate Joseph Groenowegen and Andrew Hooper who are both Half-Backs. Andrew Hooper is big bodied (Stocky) and could provide an extra mask to go with Merrett.

Anyway I think we should take Sam Power and Cameron Cloke as mature age rookies if we have the money. It is agreed that Sam Power is not the best user of the ball though he is a ball magnet and if Luke can teach him how to use it better he could be a steal. Also we have very fragile ruckmen and we don't really have a third tall forward so Cameron Cloke could be useful if we get him late in the rookie. A

Lastly why did we go for Jesse O'Brien when Josh Thomas was still available, UGGGGHHHH. One for the ages. Jesse O'Brien is a good player though Josh Thomas is in the Simon Black mould.
Haha...any constructive criticism in that...lol. :D
And the fact that you wnat us to take Cloke is bullshit and shows how much you know about footy players.

[NapalmDth]

Haha...any constructive criticism in that...lol. :D
And the fact that you wnat us to take Cloke is bullshit and shows how much you know about footy players.

Maybe he's keen for us to get someone our KPP prospects can practice their kicking on :p

[lions_girl_4life]

I can definately see Cameron Cloke getting picked up as the Lions kicking bag :D

[b_lions16]

Maybe he's keen for us to get someone our KPP prospects can practice their kicking on :p
Haha...I can just imagine him standing there with a sign saying 'Kicking Practice in the Cloke-rooms' :D

[BrisLions]

Mate im preety sure im the one that has been going on about Bartlett for ages(everyone can back me up ifyou go backpages in a few threads before the draft). I am very happy that we got him. Also im quite certain that it was you before the draft when I said I really hope we get him and you said he had a knee reco and now your pumping him up:eek: I feel like swearing but Iwon't so instead, buzzz off!

I apologise to you Sportzo because u were talking him up 4 ages. I am sorry 2 u cause he was like ur favourite lol. Though to the others and I can quote heaps of posts that u were disappointed we didn't gwt Luke Ball. Callum Bartlett is almost just as good and has the potential to be better.

[BrisLions]

Sam Power would just be getting drafted to us because of his brother and if he has not learnt how to kick a ball straight after being in the system for a while now Luke aint gunna be able to help him dude and if he does get drafted I can see him being a state level star and nothing else and as for the Goose comment read a bit more Buddy as I for one said it was a masterstroke by Voss snaring him and adds alot of depth to our defence freeing up Joel Platful and all.................You gotta do what I do mate call poeple out onthere posts if its full of Crap and tell em about it:D make it personal as it sounds like you are saying the masses here do not know much.

Thx Mate u sound like a fair dinkum guy rather than the rest of them knobheads trying to talk about footy which they do not know. Just reading through the phantom draft and articles it seems that Sam Power is going to Brisbane as a mature age rookie. I don't actually want him here if u other knobs could read between the lines though I do think he is a ball magnet but his kicking is woeful. You know if Luke could teach him he cpould be a star well so much for living in ur brother's name. Regarding Matt McGuire I did see ur comment and sorry it wasn't aimed at u more at LionsGirlSA and B_Lions 16.


Thx Mate

[BrisLions]

Haha...any constructive criticism in that...lol. :D
And the fact that you wnat us to take Cloke is bullshit and shows how much you know about footy players.

If u have seen his stats I think he would be a valuable pick late. Firstly he averages two goals every 3 games and I remember him kicking 4 goals against Brisbane in 2008 I think it was and 2 against us in the prelim final. If we could get a rookie who could kick two goals every 3 games late I would pick him. Also he averages 12 disposals and 10 hitouts a game. Now if he could be the pinch hitting ruckmen come forward he could be valuable.

Now he can kick the occasional goal, get hitouts and get 15 disposals I would take him. Also because he is a rookie he would be next to nothing and he is only 24. Now if we can get him late as a mature age rookie I don't see why not.

Also what if the same as happened last year where our ruckmen went down he would have helped Mitch Clark a hell of a lot. So let's try him for a season I think but obviously you guys don't think so.

[BrisLions]

Hrm.. lets see.. who's drafting knowledge would I trust more.. yours or Graeme Hadleys :rolleyes:

Clearly they were going for a certain type of player rather than best available. If they picked best available they would have picked Josh Thomas though IMO because they picked two similar players to his mould in Callum Bartlett and Ryan Harwood they looked over him because he is too similar in a ball getting midfield type rather than a running winger type.

Obviously Graeme Hadley has more drafting knowledge because I am not the lions recruiting manager u knob. Though he does get to scout players all year so he might have the upper hand in that department.

[BrisLions]

BTW Sportzo Callum Bartlett terrible injury issues with knee and is therefore too higher risk. What if he injurs it again forced to retire???? Though if he does stay fit and well could be the steal of the draft. Because he is an absolute gem.



U Wanted to know my opinion on Callum Bartlett well I posted this from b4 the draft!!!

[blackyismyboy]

Clearly they were going for a certain type of player rather than best available. If they picked best available they would have picked Josh Thomas though IMO because they picked two similar players to his mould in Callum Bartlett and Ryan Harwood they looked over him because he is too similar in a ball getting midfield type rather than a running winger type.

Obviously Graeme Hadley has more drafting knowledge because I am not the lions recruiting manager u knob. Though he does get to scout players all year so he might have the upper hand in that department.

If you wanna get along with people in this forum, you should probably stop calling everyone knobs.

[Balony_pony16]

Cloke is no good and definately no good for the lions unless we lose 3 ruckman with injury...if Berger, clark, and charman stay fit cloke will only play in the reserves, and he would need at least 2 of the three to get injured to have a shot at playing in the seniors.

Bartlett looks very good...of the small videos ive seen of him playing he has a great fst attacking gameplan like the geelong boys

[christicehurst]

Clearly they were going for a certain type of player rather than best available. If they picked best available they would have picked Josh Thomas though IMO because they picked two similar players to his mould in Callum Bartlett and Ryan Harwood they looked over him because he is too similar in a ball getting midfield type rather than a running winger type.

Obviously Graeme Hadley has more drafting knowledge because I am not the lions recruiting manager u knob. Though he does get to scout players all year so he might have the upper hand in that department.

You must respect all the member's opinions here. Playing the game doesn't give you any extra power. Get off the high horse.

[BrisLions]

You must respect all the member's opinions here. Playing the game doesn't give you any extra power. Get off the high horse.

When did I say that playing the game gives you extra power in that paragraph. WTF?

[BrisLions]

Cloke is no good and definately no good for the lions unless we lose 3 ruckman with injury...if Berger, clark, and charman stay fit cloke will only play in the reserves, and he would need at least 2 of the three to get injured to have a shot at playing in the seniors.

Bartlett looks very good...of the small videos ive seen of him playing he has a great fst attacking gameplan like the geelong boys

Finally someone who has reasoning to their argument. Thankyou

Firstly I think that Clark will go to Halfback and take those saving marks. Allowing charman and berger to do the ruckwork. I think Cloke could provide a useful third tall Up forward while doing the ruckwork in the forward 50 which Browny sometimes did. Now I think that cloke xould give the ruckmen a break and chime in with goals and getting 3 tackles and 13 disposals which are usually up forward and all it would cost us is a late rookie pick and he is a ready made Afl player.

[BrisLions]

Cloke is no good and definately no good for the lions unless we lose 3 ruckman with injury...if Berger, clark, and charman stay fit cloke will only play in the reserves, and he would need at least 2 of the three to get injured to have a shot at playing in the seniors.

Bartlett looks very good...of the small videos ive seen of him playing he has a great fst attacking gameplan like the geelong boys

Finally someone who has reasoning to their argument. Thankyou

Firstly I think that Clark will go to Halfback and take those saving marks. Allowing charman and berger to do the ruckwork. I think Cloke could provide a useful third tall Up forward while doing the ruckwork in the forward 50 which Browny sometimes did. Now I think that cloke xould give the ruckmen a break and chime in with goals and getting 3 tackles and 13 disposals which are usually up forward and all it would cost us is a late rookie pick and he is a ready made Afl player.

[christicehurst]

When did I say that playing the game gives you extra power in that paragraph. WTF?

It is your attitude towards me and the members. Calling people knobs and then stating not many of us have a clue about the draft. You have had a habit of talking down to people. You're just a 16 year old kid that plays footy - nothing special about that. It's a pretty common thing.

[NapalmDth]

Clearly I haven't been on the site for a week and just reading through previous posts for draft time you guys obviously don't know a lot about the draft or the players involved.

Firstly no one has really mentioned a lot about Callum Bartlett and were disappointed that we missed Luke Ball YOU IDIOTS. Callum Bartlett is an absolute gem and we get him for a steal (Pick#27 and only 52000 base salary). He is a quick, evasive, goal kicking midfielder something we haven't had since Black was in his prime (2001-2003 not saying that he isn't a good player now but he was a star then). Also we don't have the money to fit Luke Ball in with Matt McGuire and the possibility of Sam Power as a mature age rookie not to mention the kids we took and Niall McKeever who we just signed.

I would've been pissed if we'd taken Ball over Bartlett. Ball is a stop gap. Bartlett will be a gun partner in crime for Rich :D Bartlett can also kick where Ball couldn't hit the side of a stationary road-train.

Ed: Bartlett could also gain 50m on Ball over a 100m dash.. did I mention I like the kid :p

Have you even read the player profile thread tough guy? You wanna throw out generic 'your all idiots' barbs in some pitiful attempt to assert your footy brain, all your doing is exposing a jumped up arsehole of a persona. Hope that works out for you champ.

Secondly you clearly don't understand Ryan Harwood. It seems to me that you guys think that he will be like Luke Power (Clean Feet, good ball getter) not the case. He is more of a Troy Selwood or Andrew Moore (Pick #8) in that he is a hard at the ball, rough as houses, Dertimined Tasmanian. He is not gonna get 30 disposals but he may get that in and under and get us a vital clearance.

Ditto. Hard little bugger who loves getting in & under. We have a serious lack of inside midfield/clearance specialists. Harwood helps address this need. The idea of a Rich, Bartlett, Harwood, Polkinghorne midfield in 5 years time is bloody exciting.

Yeah, no understanding. Once again, go read the player profile thread. Not one post where anyone raises expectations of him racking up possessions. The only possessions mentioned in there are the ones given from his performance at the U-18 champs carnival. Plenty of info & excitement in there about him being an inside mid/ball extractor that topped the U18 carnival with 6 clearances per game and people hoping he can bring some of those qualities to the Lions.

This is the same with Jesse O'Brien, he won't get you 35 disposals but will provide excellent run-and-carry and if he builds his body up will be similar to Morabito. Also Jack Trengove rates him, (Same team) so I am pleased.

*gasp* a positive statement and you didn't even badmouth half the forum whilst expressing your opinion, maybe there is some hope for you. Then again, saying it's the same would mean no-one here is as smart as you and doesn't understand Jesse either. Woe to our insufficient brains.

I personally don't know much about Bryce Reckshlaff (Terrible Spelling I know) other than he bloomed late and could provide an excellent partnership with Aaron Cornelius.

<broken record> Read the Player Profile thread entitled Bryce Retzlaff, plenty of good info in there. </broken record>

Also I don't know why Matt McGuire isn't being mentioned much. This guy is an absolute gem and almost as bigger deal as Luke Ball. He just hasn't had the same media coverage so you guys don't think he is much. He will be an absolute rock in defence and will allow Patfull and McGrath and Drummond to run off their man knowing he will have them.

That same broken record is still playing, listen to it. Most people are stoked and have been discussing in just what ways Gooses addition to our squad will be of the greatest benefit. But yeah.. we don't think much.. it's those inferior brains *dribble*

Also as for the rookie draft our first priority should't be Majak Daw or Liam Patrick. They honestly aren't that amazing they just do the freak stuff now and again Like Jurrah. If we can get them late, so be it but our first priorities should be Matthew Panos (All-Australian), Joe Dare and I rate Joseph Groenowegen and Andrew Hooper who are both Half-Backs. Andrew Hooper is big bodied (Stocky) and could provide an extra mask to go with Merrett.

Anyway I think we should take Sam Power and Cameron Cloke as mature age rookies if we have the money. It is agreed that Sam Power is not the best user of the ball though he is a ball magnet and if Luke can teach him how to use it better he could be a steal. Also we have very fragile ruckmen and we don't really have a third tall forward so Cameron Cloke could be useful if we get him late in the rookie.

Finally, opinion without any hint of badmouthing. Now if people could disagree without you getting hostile again, then you could counter with points of your own to what those people have to say, we could have a normal, civilised, healthy debate, just like the forum was designed to encourage. Sound good?

And Lastly why did we go for Jesse O'Brien when Josh Thomas was still available, UGGGGHHHH. One for the ages. Jesse O'Brien is a good player though Josh Thomas is in the Simon Black mould.

Clearly they were going for a certain type of player rather than best available. If they picked best available they would have picked Josh Thomas though IMO because they picked two similar players to his mould in Callum Bartlett and Ryan Harwood they looked over him because he is too similar in a ball getting midfield type rather than a running winger type.

Obviously Graeme Hadley has more drafting knowledge because I am not the lions recruiting manager u knob. Though he does get to scout players all year so he might have the upper hand in that department.

If you think you understand that Hadley and the recruiting team were picking with a team balance strategy, why ask the question in the first quote and groan like the recruiters did something moronic? The first quote sounds like "Hadley you're an idiot, you should have done this instead" hence my saying I'd trust him ahead of the strategy of taking the supposedly best available player that you are evidently saying we should have taken 'you knob'.

If it's any solace, your right on Thomas, he's a quality player, but taking two good mids (one with extreme pace, both ball winners but one in particular that addresses clearances in a big way), an outside mid we obviously rate (pace once again is a big need for us), A KPP with massive upside that covers the loss of Hendo & fits better into the development timeframe at the club, and passing up Thomas is a strategy that sits very comfortably with me. We look a well balanced squad for it.

Now, try doing us all a favour, yourself included, and pull your head in.

[Balony_pony16]

Finally someone who has reasoning to their argument. Thankyou

Firstly I think that Clark will go to Halfback and take those saving marks. Allowing charman and berger to do the ruckwork. I think Cloke could provide a useful third tall Up forward while doing the ruckwork in the forward 50 which Browny sometimes did. Now I think that cloke xould give the ruckmen a break and chime in with goals and getting 3 tackles and 13 disposals which are usually up forward and all it would cost us is a late rookie pick and he is a ready made Afl player.

I kinda see what you mean...but even as a third tall up forward, he really isn't needed with Clark & Staker better options there. I also though clark will go to HB until we drafted goose...I really hope with a fit charman and berger Voss plays Clrak on the wing like the tigers did with richo.

Mind you, if we have injuries then Cloke would be a good option...and I guess the worst that can happen is he plays for sunnycoast for most the season

[Balony_pony16]

I think everyone needs to respect each others opinions...end of the day we all support the same team when the siren sounds. Be opinionated but keep the rude shit out of it ;)

[BrisLions]

I kinda see what you mean...but even as a third tall up forward, he really isn't needed with Clark & Staker better options there. I also though clark will go to HB until we drafted goose...I really hope with a fit charman and berger Voss plays Clrak on the wing like the tigers did with richo.

Mind you, if we have injuries then Cloke would be a good option...and I guess the worst that can happen is he plays for sunnycoast for most the season

I am one of Mitch's biggest fans but wing? His speed isnt that great and his kicking is good without being midfield good though. BTW I actually appreciate ur opinion so who do u think we should take in rookie draft? Any mature age rookies?

[NapalmDth]

I think everyone needs to respect each others opinions...end of the day we all support the same team when the siren sounds. Be opinionated but keep the rude shit out of it ;)

This is my point Bp. Calling people 'idiots' & 'knobs' isn't respecting their right to an opinion, or even trying to have a conversation about it. I'm more than happy to debate footy from whatever angle anyone sees it as I'm sure most here are. Taking cheap shots at people, on the other hand, is something I won't tolerate, nor should anyone here have to. The sooner that idea penetrates your new mate who respects your opinion the better ;) (ok that was a cheap shot but everyone gets one don't they)

[BrisLions]

Wow I see u have googled a few psychology terms and mum taught u how to use the computer Napalmdth. Firstly I don't think that I am the most knowledgable Lions supporter I think that position would be taken by Christicehurst and Balony pony so I aim most of my smartarse "all you idiots" comments to you and b-lions16. Also if u see my phantom draft posted mine is actually closer than Matt Burgan's which I made weeks ago so take from that what u will.

[Jedstheman]

Hey Bris I for one like the cut of your Jib .........................I have been known to shoot my mouth off too and land up with egg on my face more than once but hey thats how I roll perhaps your the same I don't really no yet.............word of advice mate calling poeple knobs on here aint on as me being the resident knob here I take great offence in your tagging other members with my title............ tell them there smoking crack or something else if you get my drift not everybody thinks the same and some see things different to others I guess sometimes I agree sometimes I don't.........and on a closing note Cloke please dude not gunna happen we are top heavy with big fellas makes no sense in getting him last years ruck injuries were a freak occorence not happening this year me thinks:rolleyes:

[BrisLions]

Hey Bris I for one like the cut of your Jib .........................I have been known to shoot my mouth off too and land up with egg on my face more than once but hey thats how I roll perhaps your the same I don't really no yet.............word of advice mate calling poeple knobs on here aint on as me being the resident knob here I take great offence in your tagging other members with my title............ tell them there smoking crack or something else if you get my drift not everybody thinks the same and some see things different to others I guess sometimes I agree sometimes I don't.........and on a closing note Cloke please dude not gunna happen we are top heavy with big fellas makes no sense in getting him last years ruck injuries were a freak occorence not happening this year me thinks:rolleyes:

Finally sum1 other than chris and balony and sportzo that is a human and knows his footy. Also I think we should agree to disagree regarding Cloke. I think he could be useful not good but useful but you guys dont think so.

Thx

[christicehurst]

Wow I see u have googled a few psychology terms and mum taught u how to use the computer Napalmdth. Firstly I don't think that I am the most knowledgable Lions supporter I think that position would be taken by Christicehurst and Balony pony so I aim most of my smartarse "all you idiots" comments to you and b-lions16. Also if u see my phantom draft posted mine is actually closer than Matt Burgan's which I made weeks ago so take from that what u will.

Just pull your head in and respect the members and learn how to debate without insult. If you don't you get banned. The ball is in your court now.

[Jedstheman]

I am one of Mitch's biggest fans but wing? His speed isnt that great and his kicking is good without being midfield good though. BTW I actually appreciate ur opinion so who do u think we should take in rookie draft? Any mature age rookies?


Hey dude seen Mitch Tagg Richo on the Wing last year on the coast he could not do it every week but could be rotated on the wing from time to time its all about rotations and match ups you should no that and in the rite situation he would dominate.

[Jedstheman]

Just pull your head in and respect the members and learn how to debate without insult. If you don't you get banned. The ball is in your court now.

Settle big fella Sporto took the whole forum for a ride and he is still here(no offence sport just making a point;))Bris will settle maybe he is just venting tonite

[b_lions16]

Finally sum1 other than chris and balony and sportzo that is a human and knows his footy. Also I think we should agree to disagree regarding Cloke. I think he could be useful not good but useful but you guys dont think so.

Thx
Oi, I would appreciate it if you stop bagging me out and calling me names. All I did was question your opinion on Cloke and I did not criticize/abuse your opinion...mate, no beef...but all I did was have a go at you.

[christicehurst]

Settle big fella Sporto took the whole forum for a ride and he is still here(no offence sport just making a point;))Bris will settle maybe he is just venting tonite

Yeah, but he was given a eight month holiday lol. BrisLion could be nicknamed Scotty Harding if he nearing a banning lol

[BrisLions]

Hey dude seen Mitch Tagg Richo on the Wing last year on the coast he could not do it every week but could be rotated on the wing from time to time its all about rotations and match ups you should no that and in the rite situation he would dominate.

Exactly. You raise a good point man but anyone could dominate on their day. E.g. I am quick but thin so if I didn't get in a physical tussle wiyh him and got the ball a lot on a vacant wing I reckon I jave the speed to go the whole way. Soz just trying to relate a personal story. But u see what I meanthat everyome has a time and a place. Like Xavier Clarke could run riot on his day but he is small so physical bouts aren't gonna suit him where Mitch would thrive on them.

[NapalmDth]

Wow I see u have googled a few psychology terms and mum taught u how to use the computer Napalmdth. Firstly I don't think that I am the most knowledgable Lions supporter I think that position would be taken by Christicehurst and Balony pony so I aim most of my smartarse "all you idiots" comments to you and b-lions16. Also if u see my phantom draft posted mine is actually closer than Matt Burgan's which I made weeks ago so take from that what u will.

LoL I'd love to meet a psychologist that'd use the term "a jumped up arsehole of a persona". Would save them a hell of a lot of time in many cases I'd imagine. Did I hit a nerve did I darling.. Awwww :(

Congrats on your phantom draft btw. Glad it went well for you. I make of it you judged the draftees pretty well. I make of your posting that fact that you're still insecure and feel the urge to try'n prop up your footy smarts when that was never what was my grievance with you, just your trying to belittle other peoples. Got that from the psych 101 book mummy got me :D

[Jedstheman]

Oi, I would appreciate it if you stop bagging me out and calling me names. All I did was question your opinion on Cloke and I did not criticize/abuse your opinion...mate, no beef...but all I did was have a go at you.

Oi go blow dry your hair or something:D

[BrisLions]

LoL I'd love to meet a psychologist that'd use the term "a jumped up arsehole of a persona". Would save them a hell of a lot of time in many cases I'd imagine. Did I hit a nerve did I darling.. Awwww :(

Congrats on your phantom draft btw. Glad it went well for you. I make of it you judged the draftees pretty well. I make of your posting that fact that you're still insecure and feel the urge to try'n prop up your footy smarts when that was never what was my grievance with you, just your trying to belittle other peoples. Got that from the psych 101 book mummy got me :D

I will be a man and say that I will defend my footy smarts as I play and love AFL so I pride myself on them

[b_lions16]

Oi go blow dry your hair or something:D
Haha...it was done ages ago...the next thing is to get Worbs off that girl of his. :D

[christicehurst]

I will be a man and say that I will defend my footy smarts as I play and love AFL so I pride myself on them

So which club do you play for?

[BrisLions]

Oi go blow dry your hair or something:D

Who is backing u up Napalm other than ur precious psychology books as u say.

Soz Jed I cant c ur private message cause of my ipod touch popup blocker.

[Jedstheman]

Haha...it was done ages ago...the next thing is to get Worbs off that girl of his. :D

We won't see worbs till D.T 16 and then his missus will leave as it is his only true love

[christicehurst]

Who is backing u up Napalm other than ur precious psychology books as u say.

Soz Jed I cant c ur private message cause of my ipod touch popup blocker.

Most of the members back him up on his statements. I view this forum like a team itself. Don't become the Aker of the team and we will all get on well.

[b_lions16]

Who is backing u up Napalm other than ur precious psychology books as u say.
Haha, that was to me, BrisLions...so stay out of my hair. :D

[christicehurst]

We won't see worbs till D.T 16 and then his missus will leave as it is his only true love

With Worbs stuck in his relationship and doing all the lovey stuff and Lion4life in the worst Schoolies in history I wonder they are personally thinking of making next the next generation of Lions players :D

[NapalmDth]

I will be a man and say that I will defend my footy smarts as I play and love AFL so I pride myself on them

“A proud man is always looking down on things and people; and, of course, as long as you're looking down, you can't see something that's above you.” - C.S. Lewis

A real man can consider others opinions without cheap badmouthing and debate them on their own merits. If you're as footy smart as you say you are, you should be able to get your point across without resorting to simply trying to shut others up by belittling them. Quite the opposite, you should welcome the opportunity to explain things to people you think are missing a point in a way they'll be able to understand. If you could show me something I hadn't considered and opened my mind up to a different way of looking at something I'd thank you.

Who is backing u up Napalm other than ur precious psychology books as u say.

I thought you were a MAN.. RAHHH!... Surely you understand that a man should take on his own battles. Only cowards hunt in packs my friend.

[BrisLions]

So which club do you play for?

Kedron lions seniors. I havent played that well lately as I am playing with men and I am only16. But well enough to make starting side. Btw last year Brendan Whitecross who plays for Hawthorn was in the age div above me.

I also play for Kedron high and we won the Jomathon Brown cup and get to go to Victoria. So excited!

I also got BOG for semi final(32 disp 8 tackle 1 goal) so I got named captain for final even though I played crap in final(12 disp) (0 goals) and I pride myself on these. Anyway I guess I am probs ramblimg too much

[christicehurst]

You're not rambling, we have a section of Local Leagues where we are looking for people like you with pride to showcase what your club is doing during the season. Sounds very interesting and I have my own stories in seeing young AFL players too.

[BrisLions]

[QUOTE=christicehurst;181269]You're not rambling, we have a section of Local Leagues where we are looking for people like you with pride to showcase what your club is doing during the season. Sounds very interesting and I have my own stories in seeing young AFL players too.[/QUOTE

Sounds kool.

[christicehurst]

Just been checking some of your club results, are you in Div 2 Seniors? Only shows results for Div 2 for me.

http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?sportid=4&client=1-3928-59034-0-0

[BrisLions]

See this is how a proper conversation takes place your precious books should teach u. When was I looking down at others I said that balonypony and christicehurst were more knowledgeable then me regarding the lions so dude just give it a rest

[BrisLions]

Just been checking some of your club results, are you in Div 2 Seniors? Only shows results for Div 2 for me.

http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?sportid=4&client=1-3928-59034-0-0

I will have a look in the morning and shoot u back a message tomoz. Thx

[NapalmDth]

See this is how a proper conversation takes place your precious books should teach u. When was I looking down at others I said that balonypony and christicehurst were more knowledgeable then me regarding the lions so dude just give it a rest

If you're going to try'n brown nose your way out of admitting a fault to yourself try'n do it with a bit more subtlety ;)

[Jedstheman]

If you're going to try'n brown nose your way out of admitting a fault to yourself try'n do it with a bit more subtlety ;)

Bam............... Loved-ett:D

[BrisLions]

If you're going to try'n brown nose your way out of admitting a fault to yourself try'n do it with a bit more subtlety ;)

Look mate just p.o I am sorry to every1 other than blions16 and napalmdth who I have offended etc. I dont think i am the best in this site as I have said sportzo balony pony jedstheman and christicehurst are all more knowledgeable than me though I do think that i more knowledgeable than most on this site and i have proved it.

Dude idc if mum hasnt breastfed u today just piss off and go to sleep. I wouldnt mind talking to u when u r refreshed.

Btw chris I will shoot u back an email in the morning regarding club div I dont even know myself i was just glad 2 be playing but I know i was in div 1 4 skool and are probs in div 1/2 for club idk.

I am thinking about putting my name in draft next year. Unless i pound next year i defs wont be selected but late rookie draft u never know. I guess the excitement of this years has got me going

[christicehurst]

Alright then, I don't know how the draft system works if they pick you or you decide to select yourself.

[BrisLions]

Alright then, I don't know how the draft system works if they pick you or you decide to select yourself.

I spoke to Jack Darling who is a star and a good bloke at a footy carnival at southport and he said it is a matter of putting ur own name in but it helps if u get selected for state screenings and draft camps.

Approximately 1500 stars put their name in so i am no chance but it gives me some purpose and late in the rookie draft u never know

[christicehurst]

I spoke to Jack Darling who is a star and a good bloke at a footy carnival at southport and he said it is a matter of putting ur own name in but it helps if u get selected for state screenings and draft camps.

Approximately 1500 stars put their name in so i am no chance but it gives me some purpose and late in the rookie draft u never know

One of my senior club players went to the Draft Camp this year, I don't know what his success was like. I need to check up on that. 1500 is alot of players, have you played for Queensland?

[NapalmDth]

Look mate just p.o I am sorry to every1 other than blions16 and napalmdth who I have offended etc. I dont think i am the best in this site as I have said sportzo balony pony jedstheman and christicehurst are all more knowledgeable than me though I do think that i more knowledgeable than most on this site and i have proved it.

Dude idc if mum hasnt breastfed u today just piss off and go to sleep. I wouldnt mind talking to u when u r refreshed.

Btw chris I will shoot u back an email in the morning regarding club div I dont even know myself i was just glad 2 be playing but I know i was in div 1 4 skool and are probs in div 1/2 for club idk.

I am thinking about putting my name in draft next year. Unless i pound next year i defs wont be selected but late rookie draft u never know. I guess the excitement of this years has got me going

Try developing your brain some mate. It'll help your footy, amongst other things. IMO, if the attitude you've displayed here is a fair measure of you, you'd make a pretty poor captain. Good grunt maybe, but a leader you ain't. The way you act, if you are hoping to make the AFL system, the psych assessment & interview process with clubs will have a severe impact on your chances.

[BrisLions]

Try developing your brain some mate. It'll help your footy, amongst other things. IMO, if the attitude you've displayed here is a fair measure of you, you'd make a pretty poor captain. Good grunt maybe, but a leader you ain't. The way you act, if you are hoping to make the AFL system, the psych assessment & interview process with clubs will have a severe impact on your chances.

Look I dont play capatain and i have a slim chance of making rookie draft let alon national draft unless i play really well next year. Neway i thought i was a good primary school captain and i used to lead other things too so im ok

[BrisLions]

One of my senior club players went to the Draft Camp this year, I don't know what his success was like. I need to check up on that. 1500 is alot of players, have you played for Queensland?

I played for northern raiders which is like the equivalent of the entire north brisbane at half back (non preffered) but not even close to qld so i will have to improve a lot

Also there are 1500 cause like 80 i think go to camp a few hundred more go to state screenings and then like a thousand club players put their name down. E.g Christian Howard pick 15 who didnt do camp or state screenings and just played club.

[sportzo]

Mate um first of all good luck. Second of all what club do you play for and if you are hoping to get drafted you will most likely have to make the seniors of your club and than get selected for Queensland. Play your heart out mate. I lost my chance:(

[b_lions16]

Look mate just p.o I am sorry to every1 other than blions16 and napalmdth who I have offended etc. I dont think i am the best in this site as I have said sportzo balony pony jedstheman and christicehurst are all more knowledgeable than me though I do think that i more knowledgeable than most on this site and i have proved it.

Dude idc if mum hasnt breastfed u today just piss off and go to sleep. I wouldnt mind talking to u when u r refreshed.

Btw chris I will shoot u back an email in the morning regarding club div I dont even know myself i was just glad 2 be playing but I know i was in div 1 4 skool and are probs in div 1/2 for club idk.

I am thinking about putting my name in draft next year. Unless i pound next year i defs wont be selected but late rookie draft u never know. I guess the excitement of this years has got me going
First of all, mate...I respect your opinion on this forum but WHAT THE FUCKING HELL DID I DO TO YOU THAT COMES ACROSS AS 'OFFENSIVE'?!...You retard, all I did was say Cloke wasn't a good option and 9/10 people in the footy world would agree with that...take a good look at yaself and don't reckon you're head over heels better than everyone in society because it ain't gunna help youse and stop bagging me out when I DID NOTHING, dammit! :D

[sportzo]

First of all, mate...I respect your opinion on this forum but WHAT THE FUCKING HELL DID I DO TO YOU THAT COMES ACROSS AS 'OFFENSIVE'?!...You retard, all I did was say Cloke wasn't a good option and 9/10 people in the footy world would agree with that...take a good look at yaself and don't reckon you're head over heels better than everyone in society because it ain't gunna help youse and stop bagging me out when I DID NOTHING, dammit! :DHahaha. Showpnoy angry joking:D:p;):D

[Balony_pony16]

I am one of Mitch's biggest fans but wing? His speed isnt that great and his kicking is good without being midfield good though. BTW I actually appreciate ur opinion so who do u think we should take in rookie draft? Any mature age rookies?

I wouldn't mine Tenace given ago from the cats...he is a pretty solid player struggling in a very successful team...I think he was pick 7 a few years back aswell...I love that draft number.

The reason I like Clark on the wing is due to our long kicking gameplan, which would suit him being a target on the wing against smaller opponants. Having no target on the wing was a key reason why our gameplan broke down when it did (remember the flogging the cats gave us). I think him floating around the midfield from a wing starting position would be very effective, as it provides him the option to easily slip back or push forward when needed. I just don't want to see him batter his body if charman & berger are fit. and with goose, pats, & rog down back we should have the height & defensive talent covered (not to say that clark shouldn't push back, just not stay there all game). What he lacks in speed he will make up for sheer height and marking ability over the smaller runners

[BrisLions]

First of all, mate...I respect your opinion on this forum but WHAT THE FUCKING HELL DID I DO TO YOU THAT COMES ACROSS AS 'OFFENSIVE'?!...You retard, all I did was say Cloke wasn't a good option and 9/10 people in the footy world would agree with that...take a good look at yaself and don't reckon you're head over heels better than everyone in society because it ain't gunna help youse and stop bagging me out when I DID NOTHING, dammit! :D

IDK how many times I have said I am not the best here and I have never said that I was. I have now stated many times that Balony Pony Christicehurst JedstheMan and Sportzo all know more than me but I guess this place works like a team rather than individuals so I am just a small cog in the mix.

You have just proved my point regarding offensive and I don't care if u dislike Cameron Cloke I just think your an idiot and my point is proved.

Also I know that I am not the best in society. I am 16 and get treated as such though I guess I was just angry/venting last night though I keep my opinion that you dont know much about footy and the lions.

[BrisLions]

Mate um first of all good luck. Second of all what club do you play for and if you are hoping to get drafted you will most likely have to make the seniors of your club and than get selected for Queensland. Play your heart out mate. I lost my chance:(

Yeah I am 16 but managed to play seniors this year. I will need to improve at senior level because I am managing to take the starting team which is a big effort but I aren't playing well though making the team is a good effort.

I did play for Sandgate (AFL Excellence) though I found their focus to be more on fitness rather than footy so I play for a team which is now closer Kedron. I live in the same street as the club and they had AFL players (Brendan Whitecross and Aker played for Kedron-Grange) play for them.

ATM I am more concerned though with completing senior with an OP below 5. I am also currently completing an accounting in schools QUT program. Whereby I attend uni lectures in grade 12 and if I pass my QUT tests I get auto entry into any business course.

It is unfortunate that you couldn't live out ur dream. Where did you play? What level did u get up to? What happened that made u quit/Forced to drop out?

[BrisLions]

I wouldn't mine Tenace given ago from the cats...he is a pretty solid player struggling in a very successful team...I think he was pick 7 a few years back aswell...I love that draft number.

The reason I like Clark on the wing is due to our long kicking gameplan, which would suit him being a target on the wing against smaller opponants. Having no target on the wing was a key reason why our gameplan broke down when it did (remember the flogging the cats gave us). I think him floating around the midfield from a wing starting position would be very effective, as it provides him the option to easily slip back or push forward when needed. I just don't want to see him batter his body if charman & berger are fit. and with goose, pats, & rog down back we should have the height & defensive talent covered (not to say that clark shouldn't push back, just not stay there all game). What he lacks in speed he will make up for sheer height and marking ability over the smaller runners

Yeah tenace played agains the lions in the "Cat-Astrophy game" at the gabba. I thought he didn't get too much ball but he was hard at it and determined and was a team player so why not???

[BrisLions]

First of all, mate...I respect your opinion on this forum but WHAT THE FUCKING HELL DID I DO TO YOU THAT COMES ACROSS AS 'OFFENSIVE'?!...You retard, all I did was say Cloke wasn't a good option and 9/10 people in the footy world would agree with that...take a good look at yaself and don't reckon you're head over heels better than everyone in society because it ain't gunna help youse and stop bagging me out when I DID NOTHING, dammit! :D

Oi if I got an infraction for saying how is your mum after last night? (SOZ for saying that BTW) Why doesn't he get 1 for this! Neway you have just proved my point about offensive and you send mixed messages by calling me mate and putting smilies but
also calling me a "Fucking Idiot" and a "Retard"

Also I know my place in society and on this forum as I have said though as a moderator you clearly don't get ur role!

[blackyismyboy]

IDK how many times I have said I am not the best here and I have never said that I was. I have now stated many times that Balony Pony Christicehurst JedstheMan and Sportzo all know more than me but I guess this place works like a team rather than individuals so I am just a small cog in the mix.

You have just proved my point regarding offensive and I don't care if u dislike Cameron Cloke I just think your an idiot and my point is proved.

Also I know that I am not the best in society. I am 16 and get treated as such though I guess I was just angry/venting last night though I keep my opinion that you dont know much about footy and the lions.

You're free to have your own opinion and express it on here, but what you shouldn't do is insult people for having theirs. This is a forum to talk about the Brisbane Lions, not a "Guess who knows more" contest.

[BrisLions]

You're free to have your own opinion and express it on here, but what you shouldn't do is insult people for having theirs. This is a forum to talk about the Brisbane Lions, not a "Guess who knows more" contest.

If u read throughly u would see that I said exactly this when I said I am just a small cog in the mix as u guys work like a team.

[lions_girl_4life]

But you have been calling people names for having their opinion

[Jedstheman]

Everyone put it to rest already if your not posting about the draft don't post in this thread at all use your P.M to work out any issues you have with each other I have all dissagreed with everyone here many times but its getting tired:D

[BrisLions]

But you have been calling people names for having their opinion

Look if it is a stupid opinion like you saying that we need Luke Ball I will call them morons but I havent gone off my head like Blions16.

[RoyBoys]

Lions supporters arguing with each other what a disgrace..Give your opinion accept others view and lets get on with it!!

[christicehurst]

Moving on now do we have picks in the next draft or not?

[b_lions16]

Look if it is a stupid opinion like you saying that we need Luke Ball I will call them morons but I havent gone off my head like Blions16.
Just leave it...I apologize for going off the trigger but it's not like you don't have anything to apologize to me...give it a rest and move on.

[NapalmDth]

Look if it is a stupid opinion like you saying that we need Luke Ball I will call them morons but I havent gone off my head like Blions16.

It's just a matter of semantics lad. If you think an opinion is stupid try saying "Well I reckon that's a rather flawed take on it myself" then explain to them why, rather than just saying "you're a moron" here's what I think. People are rarely receptive to just being given shit and all it ultimately does is derail a conversation.

The two statements I alluded to are much the same, but in the first you're giving the person far more chance to consider what you say and take it on board/learn from it and maybe change their opinion, or if they don't get you, ask questions so you can create a bit of understanding, and maybe even in hearing their questions yourself, understand concerns some people may have that you didn't realise. The other way people just get defensive & irritated and fracture. It wasn't hard to see you intentionally trying to bring about those little fractures by trying to name individual posters, pander to some, and badmouth others. It might work when trying to keep the cool group at high school 'exclusive' but in the great wide world it achieves two tenths of sweet fuck all.

You might think it's cool to exclude people & try to position groups or play people off against each other, but it really isn't. On a forum that's trying to grow, it holds that back, and in relation to something as big as the Lions footy club, that kind of attitude is the kind of thing that divides supporters, effects membership negatively, and when done at board level, can completely fuck a club. It's also one of the reasons I said you'd not be my first pick for a leader. Leaders need to understand their people no matter their position & bring them together to get the best out of them. Division serves no-one in a team environment. Even outside of a leadership role, as a player you need to be able to listen to others that disagree with you without assuming you know best. Coaches, captains etc will all put you in your place at times and you need to be able to deal with that positively.

[BrisLions]

Moving on now do we have picks in the next draft or not?

It depends as we dont have picks in the pre-season draft unless we delist some1. Now I think sum ppls opinion is rather flawed (thx napalm). There are calls to get rid of stiller though he is our only genuine tagger in the midfield. Clearly if we were to delist sum1 it would be a half back or a ball winning midfielder as we have an ahundance of these. If I was coach I wouldn't get rid of anyone though Banfield would be the one if I was 2 get rid of anyone.

Neway straight after that is the rookie draft where we will be hoping to get guys like panos hooper dare gronowegen dare etc we have 6 picks in this draft.

[Balony_pony16]

It depends as we dont have picks in the pre-season draft unless we delist some1. Now I think sum ppls opinion is rather flawed (thx napalm). There are calls to get rid of stiller though he is our only genuine tagger in the midfield. Clearly if we were to delist sum1 it would be a half back or a ball winning midfielder as we have an ahundance of these. If I was coach I wouldn't get rid of anyone though Banfield would be the one if I was 2 get rid of anyone.

Neway straight after that is the rookie draft where we will be hoping to get guys like panos hooper dare gronowegen dare etc we have 6 picks in this draft.

I think stiller will get another season...but he isn't our only tagger. Selwood & Sherman have both played in that role...I don't see much need for Stiller myself as he has no offensive game. I also wonder if X Clarke and McGrath could be used for run with roles?

[Balony_pony16]

I recon some people here rate Banfield...I know nothin about him though

[b_lions16]

It depends as we dont have picks in the pre-season draft unless we delist some1. Now I think sum ppls opinion is rather flawed (thx napalm). There are calls to get rid of stiller though he is our only genuine tagger in the midfield. Clearly if we were to delist sum1 it would be a half back or a ball winning midfielder as we have an ahundance of these. If I was coach I wouldn't get rid of anyone though Banfield would be the one if I was 2 get rid of anyone.

Neway straight after that is the rookie draft where we will be hoping to get guys like panos hooper dare gronowegen dare etc we have 6 picks in this draft.
We won't have a PSD Pick because we failed to delist someone before the 2nd list lodgement and therefore we can't do anything to our list before the Rookie Draft. ;)
The only cut I have against Stiller is that he gets under 10 possessions on average and needs to get into the game more. But then again, he is taking someone out of the game...but working on his input would be good. Panos would be defenitely on top of our list for the Rookie Draft considering his TAC Cup form.
BP, Banfield has potential to be a gun, he has good pace and can easily fit into a medium midfielder/forward role, IMO.

[Balony_pony16]

I don't know any of the young potential rookies...ever since we traded all our picks for staker, fev and the likes I lost interst in the drafts

[RoyBoys]

As I mentioned earlier we have 9 spots to fill in the rookie draft and we can pick 2 mature rookies as well. So there is plenty still to come. I wouldn't be surprised if we picked up mark couglan as a mature rookie considering he is only 25

[b_lions16]

As I mentioned earlier we have 9 spots to fill in the rookie draft and we can pick 2 mature rookies as well. So there is plenty still to come. I wouldn't be surprised if we picked up mark couglan as a mature rookie considering he is only 25
I want Robbo...lol. The guy can still kick a bag and can easily fill into a small forward/lead-up pocket role. This year, he averaged 2.2 goals in his 13 games which is what I reckon a small forward should get. Obviously a short term solution but even for a year, he could do well for us.

Description Date Opponent Result K HB D M G B T HO GA GC I50 FF FA DT SC
Round 22 30th Aug St Kilda (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-st-kilda-saints) Loss 67-114 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4309) 8 2 10 3 1 2 0 0 0 1 2 1 0 46 47
Round 21 22nd Aug Carlton (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-carlton-blues) Loss 96-153 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4144) 13 1 14 9 5 2 0 0 0 5 1 0 0 100 73
Round 20 16th Aug Fremantle (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-fremantle-dockers) Win 127-64 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4228) 9 0 9 6 3 1 0 0 1 4 3 0 0 64 71
Round 16 18th Jul Geelong (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-geelong-cats) Loss 71-117 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4297) 4 3 7 4 0 2 2 0 0 0 1 0 1 37 23
Round 15 12th Jul Port Adelaide (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-port-adelaide-power) Win 101-90 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4277) 7 0 7 2 2 1 0 0 0 2 2 0 2 34 35
Round 14 4th Jul West Coast (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-west-coast-eagles) Win 112-92 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4208) 10 2 12 6 4 2 2 0 2 6 2 0 0 86 109
Round 13 27th Jun Brisbane (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-brisbane-lions) Loss 56-111 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4203) 5 0 5 5 1 2 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 47 56
Round 12 19th Jun Essendon (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-essendon-bombers) Loss 83-131 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4196) 7 2 9 2 2 1 2 0 1 3 1 2 0 54 58
Round 11 8th Jun Collingwood (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-collingwood-magpies) Loss 60-126 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4254) 7 3 10 4 1 3 4 0 1 2 3 2 0 66 70
Round 9 24th May Hawthorn (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-hawthorn-hawks) Loss 92-114 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4238) 8 1 9 5 2 3 2 0 0 2 1 1 1 62 58
Round 8 16th May Western Bulldogs (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-western-bulldogs) Loss 97-104 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4185) 6 2 8 1 3 0 1 0 0 3 2 2 0 49 66
Round 7 10th May West Coast (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-west-coast-eagles) Loss 82-90 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4157) 5 4 9 6 2 0 2 0 1 3 1 0 1 58 52
Round 6 3rd May Geelong (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-geelong-cats) Loss 68-111 (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=4293) 8 2 10 6 3 2 1 0 0 3 1 0 0 70 66

[Hayley]

I want Robbo...

Me too. I was hoping we'd get him in the national draft. But no such luck... And I know people have already explained it, but we can't get him now in the next drafts, can we?

[b_lions16]

Me too. I was hoping we'd get him in the national draft. But no such luck... And I know people have already explained it, but we can't get him now in the next drafts, can we?
I don't think he nominated for the Rookie Draft which sucks major balls...he nominated for the PSD but we don't have a pick in that.
Coughlan could be a good pick as a mature age rookie. I thought Richmond would take him on after they stuck with him through his injury spanning over 3 years...In his 9 games, he averaged 18 disposals, 4.6 marks as well as 5 tackles which means he is a good hard player who can also play an outside role. Worth the punt, and if he doesn't turn out right we could always dump him.

[RoyBoys]

of the 9 rookies we can have 2 mature age ones so we could pick both couglan and robbo as mature aged rookies

[b_lions16]

of the 9 rookies we can have 2 mature age ones so we could pick both couglan and robbo as mature aged rookies
Did Robbo nominate for the Rookie Draft?

[b_lions16]

JOEL Macdonald, Adam McPhee and Daniel Bradshaw are lock-ins for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft, but will the likes of Joe Dare (Geelong Falcons), Dylan Grimes (Northern Knights) and Northern Territorian Liam Patrick join them?
At this stage, there will be six selections in the pre-season draft, with Melbourne set to use its first pick to claim former Lion Macdonald.
Richmond will have pick No.2, followed by Fremantle (No.3), Sydney Swans (No.4), West Coast (No.5) and Essendon (No.6). West Coast and Essendon enter the pre-season draft as McPhee will officially be removed from the Bombers' list and Tyson Stenglein will be left off the blue and gold list, having retired.
But the final order will be confirmed after the third list lodgement is finalised on Wednesday, December 2. Other clubs could enter the pre-season draft if they make a further delisting. The AFL also needs to tick off that all clubs meet their total player payments (TPP) estimates.
McPhee is destined to return to his original AFL club Fremantle and Bradshaw looks headed for the Swans - assuming the Tigers, West Coast and Dons don't select them beforehand. It remains unclear at this point which players will be selected by the latter three clubs.
But with defenders Dare and Grimes and the exciting Patrick among the contenders, they loom as possibilities. Otherwise they seem certain to be rookies.
Dare and Grimes were surprisingly overlooked when most recruiters believed they would be selected in the top 50 of last week's NAB AFL Draft.
Patrick has been playing with Wanderers in the NTFL and has created plenty of interest, particularly on the back of his cousin Liam Jurrah's success this year. Jurrah was the first pick in last year's NAB AFL Rookie Draft.
Sudanese-born Majak Daw, a 194cm athlete, and South Australians Matthew Panos, Derick Wanganeen (the cousin of 1993 Brownlow Medallist Gavin) and Jack Hannath will also come into play during the rookie draft.
VFL stars Michael Barlow (Werribee) and Sam Iles (ex-Collingwood) also look set to join AFL lists next year.
Mitch Fisher (Geelong Falcons), Josh Donaldson (West Perth), Jack Weston (Gippsland Power), Serhat Temel (Calder Cannons), Andrew Hooper (North Ballarat Rebels) and Josh Dyson (Eastern Ranges) are others likely to become rookies.
With clubs now allowed to select two players more than 23 years old, this also opens the door for players with AFL experience.
The new rules mean the likes of former Demon Russell Robertson, ex-Tiger Mark Couglan and 2005 premiership player Luke Ablett could become (mature-age) rookies.
Mitch Thorp, Kane Tenace, Cameron Cloke, Scott Harding and Sam Power are just some of the players looking for new homes via the final two drafts.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87709/default.aspx

[RoyBoys]

JOEL Macdonald, Adam McPhee and Daniel Bradshaw are lock-ins for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft, but will the likes of Joe Dare (Geelong Falcons), Dylan Grimes (Northern Knights) and Northern Territorian Liam Patrick join them?

At this stage, there will be six selections in the pre-season draft, with Melbourne set to use its first pick to claim former Lion Macdonald.

Richmond will have pick No.2, followed by Fremantle (No.3), Sydney Swans (No.4), West Coast (No.5) and Essendon (No.6). West Coast and Essendon enter the pre-season draft as McPhee will officially be removed from the Bombers' list and Tyson Stenglein will be left off the blue and gold list, having retired.

But the final order will be confirmed after the third list lodgement is finalised on Wednesday, December 2. Other clubs could enter the pre-season draft if they make a further delisting. The AFL also needs to tick off that all clubs meet their total player payments (TPP) estimates.

McPhee is destined to return to his original AFL club Fremantle and Bradshaw looks headed for the Swans - assuming the Tigers, West Coast and Dons don't select them beforehand. It remains unclear at this point which players will be selected by the latter three clubs.

But with defenders Dare and Grimes and the exciting Patrick among the contenders, they loom as possibilities. Otherwise they seem certain to be rookies.

Dare and Grimes were surprisingly overlooked when most recruiters believed they would be selected in the top 50 of last week's NAB AFL Draft.

Patrick has been playing with Wanderers in the NTFL and has created plenty of interest, particularly on the back of his cousin Liam Jurrah's success this year. Jurrah was the first pick in last year's NAB AFL Rookie Draft.

Sudanese-born Majak Daw, a 194cm athlete, and South Australians Matthew Panos, Derick Wanganeen (the cousin of 1993 Brownlow Medallist Gavin) and Jack Hannath will also come into play during the rookie draft.

VFL stars Michael Barlow (Werribee) and Sam Iles (ex-Collingwood) also look set to join AFL lists next year.

Mitch Fisher (Geelong Falcons), Josh Donaldson (West Perth), Jack Weston (Gippsland Power), Serhat Temel (Calder Cannons), Andrew Hooper (North Ballarat Rebels) and Josh Dyson (Eastern Ranges) are others likely to become rookies.

With clubs now allowed to select two players more than 23 years old, this also opens the door for players with AFL experience.

The new rules mean the likes of former Demon Russell Robertson, ex-Tiger Mark Couglan and 2005 premiership player Luke Ablett could become (mature-age) rookies.

Mitch Thorp, Kane Tenace, Cameron Cloke, Scott Harding and Sam Power are just some of the players looking for new homes via the final two drafts.

[BrisLions]

Me too. I was hoping we'd get him in the national draft. But no such luck... And I know people have already explained it, but we can't get him now in the next drafts, can we?

If you read u would c that we can get him as a mature age rookie though reports are that he may just retire if he is not selected in the psd. Imo he wont fit into our game plan armt Melbourne he demanded his space and sometimes asked all the forwards to get out of the fifty so he could have a one on one. Sorry mate but Browny and fev wont work with that. Anyway his strength isnt on the lead where we need him to be but rather his big run up and leap at a crowd where browny would do that. His strength was his marking and not his third tall attributes where we need him to be.

Not saying he isnt a good player he just wouldnt gel. Also his thirty something I dont know if he would the last the year whereas a quality kid like panos could last 15.

[Hayley]

If you read u would c that we can get him as a mature age rookie though reports are that he may just retire if he is not selected in the psd. Imo he wont fit into our game plan armt Melbourne he demanded his space and sometimes asked all the forwards to get out of the fifty so he could have a one on one. Sorry mate but Browny and fev wont work with that. Anyway his strength isnt on the lead where we need him to be but rather his big run up and leap at a crowd where browny would do that. His strength was his marking and not his third tall attributes where we need him to be.

Not saying he isnt a good player he just wouldnt gel. Also his thirty something I dont know if he would the last the year whereas a quality kid like panos could last 15.

Not in the mood for your shit. Don't talk to me.

[RoyBoys]

I wouldn't mind Ablett and Couglan as mature age rookies..One midfielder the other a small foward..

Daw, patrick and wanganeen would be other rookies to look out for..

[b_lions16]

The 45 names to watch out for in the NAB AFL Pre-Season/Rookie Drafts

1 - Michael Barlow (Werribee)
2 - Daniel Bradshaw (Brisbane Lions)
3 - Cameron Cloke (Carlton)
4 - Joseph Dare (Geelong Falcons)
5 - Majak Daw (Western Jets)
6 - Josh Donaldson (West Perth)
7 - Josh Dyson (Eastern Ranges)
8 - Mitch Fisher (Geelong Falcons)
9 - Matt Fowler (Gold Coast)
10 - Mitch Golby (Gippsland Power)
11 - Dylan Grimes (Northern Knights)
12 - Jack Hannath (Central District)
13 - Scott Harding (Brisbane Lions)
14 - Kyle Hardingham (East Fremantle)
15 - Robbie Hicks (Calder Cannons)
16 - Tom Hill (Northern Knights)
17 - Andrew Hooper (North Ballarat Rebels)
18 - Mark Hutchings (East Perth)
19 - Sam Iles (Box Hill Hawks)
20 - Dylan Jones (Sandringham Dragons)
21 - Cameron Kickett (Perth)
22 - Joel Macdonald (Brisbane Lions)
28 - Tom MacKenzie (Geelong Falcons)
29 - Brock McCauley (Southport)
31 - Dylan McNeil (Lavington)
32 - Adam McPhee (Essendon)
33 - Matthew Panos (Norwood)
34 - Liam Patrick (Wanderers)
35 - Graham Polak (Richmond)
36 - Matthew Scott (Eastern Ranges)
37 - Daniel Scott-Collings (Glenelg)
38 - Myles Sewell (North Ballarat Roosters)
39 - Alex Silvagni (Casey Scorpions)
40 - Mitchell Taylor (Wanderers)
41 - Serhat Temel (Calder Cannons)
42 - Luke Thompson (Geelong Falcons)
43 - Sean Tighe (Western Jets)
44 - Derick Wanganeen (Port Adelaide Magpies)
45 - Jack Weston (Gippsland Power)

[BrisLions]

Not in the mood for your shit. Don't talk to me.

Is that right? Well actually I was being polite and trying to help but obviously you couldnt see that because of the dick between ur eyes. Neway I could have been impolite and said "you fucking moron" for not knowing jackshit bout the draft or commented on your clearly media inflicted view of robbo.

I believe u were also the dipshit who wanted Luke Ball in our salary cap. You dont know much about the Lions, you arent trying to learn and yet u r a moderator!

Holy fuck who did u sleep with?

Napalm dont take this as an im so great message rather than you (just her) are so stupid mssage.

[BrisLions]

This is a really good list,your stocks are rising in my book. Also watchout for hooper mackenzie tighe as they were all rated as potential lions picks in various phantom drafts. Well done




The 45 names to watch out for in the NAB AFL Pre-Season/Rookie Drafts

1 - Michael Barlow (Werribee)
2 - Daniel Bradshaw (Brisbane Lions)
3 - Cameron Cloke (Carlton)
4 - Joseph Dare (Geelong Falcons)
5 - Majak Daw (Western Jets)
6 - Josh Donaldson (West Perth)
7 - Josh Dyson (Eastern Ranges)
8 - Mitch Fisher (Geelong Falcons)
9 - Matt Fowler (Gold Coast)
10 - Mitch Golby (Gippsland Power)
11 - Dylan Grimes (Northern Knights)
12 - Jack Hannath (Central District)
13 - Scott Harding (Brisbane Lions)
14 - Kyle Hardingham (East Fremantle)
15 - Robbie Hicks (Calder Cannons)
16 - Tom Hill (Northern Knights)
17 - Andrew Hooper (North Ballarat Rebels)
18 - Mark Hutchings (East Perth)
19 - Sam Iles (Box Hill Hawks)
20 - Dylan Jones (Sandringham Dragons)
21 - Cameron Kickett (Perth)
22 - Joel Macdonald (Brisbane Lions)
28 - Tom MacKenzie (Geelong Falcons)
29 - Brock McCauley (Southport)
31 - Dylan McNeil (Lavington)
32 - Adam McPhee (Essendon)
33 - Matthew Panos (Norwood)
34 - Liam Patrick (Wanderers)
35 - Graham Polak (Richmond)
36 - Matthew Scott (Eastern Ranges)
37 - Daniel Scott-Collings (Glenelg)
38 - Myles Sewell (North Ballarat Roosters)
39 - Alex Silvagni (Casey Scorpions)
40 - Mitchell Taylor (Wanderers)
41 - Serhat Temel (Calder Cannons)
42 - Luke Thompson (Geelong Falcons)
43 - Sean Tighe (Western Jets)
44 - Derick Wanganeen (Port Adelaide Magpies)
45 - Jack Weston (Gippsland Power)

[b_lions16]

This is a really good list,your stocks are rising in my book. Also watchout for hooper mackenzie tighe as they were all rated as potential lions picks in various phantom drafts. Well doneHaha, thanks mate...what do you think of getting Andy Hooper or Rob Hicks? Both smallish type forwards that could pop up and kick a few a game, I reckon. And your views on Daw and Patrick?

[christicehurst]

Is that right? Well actually I was being polite and trying to help but obviously you couldnt see that because of the dick between ur eyes. Neway I could have been impolite and said "you fucking moron" for not knowing jackshit bout the draft or commented on your clearly media inflicted view of robbo.

I believe u were also the dipshit who wanted Luke Ball in our salary cap. You dont know much about the Lions, you arent trying to learn and yet u r a moderator!

Holy fuck who did u sleep with?

Napalm dont take this as an im so great message rather than you (just her) are so stupid mssage.

Alright now, back in the corners now BrisLions and Hayley. We don't want any problems here. Hayley that wasn't a great call and if you didn't want to talk to me, don't post anything directed to him.

[BrisLions]

I wouldn't mind Ablett and Couglan as mature age rookies..One midfielder the other a small foward..

Daw, patrick and wanganeen would be other rookies to look out for..

Am i just a moron but i thought coughlan was a ruck maybe im just stupid. See everybody i dont think i am the greatest i dont know something.

[BrisLions]

Haha, thanks mate...what do you think of getting Andy Hooper or Rob Hicks? Both smallish type forwards that could pop up and kick a few a game, I reckon. And your views on Daw and Patrick?

Holy hell sum1 just asked me my opinion. (hallelujah plays in background)



I had hooper at 47 for the lions in phantom draft as a half back which he plays. Though it is a good point u raise that he should plAy small forward due to our influx of small forwards. He shouldnt be our first priority but i wouldnt mind him.

Daw and patrick are both freaks in a good way but again shouldnt be our first priorities as they arent actually that good it is just that there highlights reel is incredible. I wouldnt mind if they came here but only for those 2 seconds of magic not because they would be star players.

Thx And congrats on ur list!

[christicehurst]

If our next lodgment has been made then I believe we won't be getting anymore players. I currently feel we have made enough changes over the last two months. The gelling of the team will be my concern with forward line pressure and a aging midfield.

[BrisLions]

If our next lodgment has been made then I believe we won't be getting anymore players. I currently feel we have made enough changes over the last two months. The gelling of the team will be my concern with forward line pressure and a aging midfield.

Well of course we have the rookie draft and our second list lodgement comes out in the morn. Robbo may be a good idea as a late mature age rookie.

[christicehurst]

Knowing Vossy you can't count him out doing something different from the other coaches. I personally like the look of the team for now and want them to gel and work together quickly for next year. This is really a Glory or Nothing period for us.

[NapalmDth]

Word about is that we're likely to pick up young Sean Yoshiura (Mt Gravatt) in the rookie draft to go with Broc McCauley. Personally I wouldn't bother with anyone Robbos age. We covered that during trade week. Likewise Coughlan & Tenace. I reckon we're better snapping up any smokeys we think GC17 might pinch. Remember, Josh Drummond was picked up as a rookie then elevated. We ned to add some more development potential to the squad to make sure we don't fall in a heap in a few years time.

[Hayley]

Is that right? Well actually I was being polite and trying to help but obviously you couldnt see that because of the dick between ur eyes. Neway I could have been impolite and said "you fucking moron" for not knowing jackshit bout the draft or commented on your clearly media inflicted view of robbo.

I believe u were also the dipshit who wanted Luke Ball in our salary cap. You dont know much about the Lions, you arent trying to learn and yet u r a moderator!

Holy fuck who did u sleep with?

Napalm dont take this as an im so great message rather than you (just her) are so stupid mssage.

Aww, Diddums, I don't think there was ANY need for all your insults in your post. You were trying to be polite, were you?

Next time you try to do something normal and nice, maybe not put such a hypocritical title and try by by not starting off your reply by "If you read". makes you seem like kind of a dick. If you need any pointers on knowing how not to be an arsehole, (not saying you are one, just think you need a little direction in that little brain of yours <--- that was an insult, by the way) then probably just don't post at this forum. That'd fix it, and make a lot of us very, very happy.

And so what if I wanted Luke Ball at the Lions? My bad for wanting a fucking quality midfielder with experience. I'd want him on the field rather than Vossy's love child, Sam Sheldon.

[RoyBoys]

Brislions firstly dude seriously no need for all that with Hayley..You both need to build a bridge and get over it!!

Mark Coughlan is Born: 20-Apr-1982
is a midfieder averages 19.6 disposals and 3.8 tackles a game not too bad considering he has only played 92 games because of serious injury and missed out 2007 and 2008 season. Definetely worth a look out as a mature age rookie.

Last year he only played nine games for Richmond when he was called back into the team after a 41-possession, 10-tackle display for Coburg. He then had 28 disps (13 kicks 15 hballs), 7 marks and 5 tackles in Rd 8 3-pt loss to Port Adelaide last year which is a great effort from a guy that has missed 2 seasons of football. Could be a handy pick as a mature age rookie..Hard nut midfielder!!

[RoyBoys]

Hayley whats wrong with Sam Sheldon? Do you forget he is a first year player!! He played 19 games last season averaged 11.5 disposals and 2.2 tackles a game I don't think that is a bad first effort..Give the kid a go he is only 20 years old!!

[blackyismyboy]

Hayley whats wrong with Sam Sheldon? Do you forget he is a first year player!! He played 19 games last season averaged 11.5 disposals and 2.2 tackles a game I don't think that is a bad first effort..Give the kid a go he is only 20 years old!!

What she meant was that he was good for his first few games, but he dropped away for a bit and Vossy still kept him in the team. Probably should've been put in the reserves for a while.

[RoyBoys]

We didn't have anyone better to replace him with!! Kids like that who give it all they have got you don't drop to the reserves it demoralizes there confidence. You give them time to learn on the football field playing with the likes of Black and co. Sure he made a few mistakes but you can't question his desire and commitment on the field and for the team. The same can not be said about harding proud hooper all with half asked efforts!

[b_lions16]

We didn't have anyone better to replace him with!! Kids like that who give it all they have got you don't drop to the reserves it demoralizes there confidence. You give them time to learn on the football field playing with the likes of Black and co. Sure he made a few mistakes but you can't question his desire and commitment on the field and for the team. The same can not be said about harding proud hooper all with half asked efforts!
I reckon we had loads of people to replace Sheldon...he didn't earn his place in the squad for the last six or seven weeks. He was just a clogger in the side and no more than a decoration. He had about six or seven touches a game, had next to no impact and when he got the ball, he looked shaky with it. If he went back to the Reserves, I reckon it would urge him to work harder and only leaving him in the Seniors got him overconfident, IMO and I think he reckoned that he had done enough and was becoming a bit lazy, to be honest.

[RoyBoys]

Blionns16 you mentioned we had plenty who would you have played instead?

[b_lions16]

Blionns16 you mentioned we had plenty who would you have played instead?
Dalziell, MacDonald, Stiller

[RoyBoys]

Macdonald and stiller both played 22 games last year so they were already in the squad. And if he played Daziell in front of Sheldon he had rocks in his head Daziel is a cheap possession getter he has no work ethic and is the king of clangers you cant be serious there..Sheldon at least can kick runs like a dog all day tackles chases you surely can't put daziel in the same category.. B16 surely you can do better than that!!

[NapalmDth]

I reckon we had loads of people to replace Sheldon...he didn't earn his place in the squad for the last six or seven weeks. He was just a clogger in the side and no more than a decoration. He had about six or seven touches a game, had next to no impact and when he got the ball, he looked shaky with it. If he went back to the Reserves, I reckon it would urge him to work harder and only leaving him in the Seniors got him overconfident, IMO and I think he reckoned that he had done enough and was becoming a bit lazy, to be honest.

Agree with most of this. the confidence thing though I reckon was going the other way. He looked shaky with the ball in hand because of a lack of confidence IMO. His handballing really worried me and it was because he was often in two minds about what to do. Once he second guessed himself, he ran out of time and got run down before he could dispose effectively. I would've sent him back to the ressies as well. Told him to kick some arse there and to simply back his instincts.

RB: The demoralising factor does exist, but I reckon it works both ways. Sometimes if you keep playing a kid where he feels out of his depth and he keeps getting beaten, that can destroy their confidence too. I would've dropped him, like I said above. Not as punishment for poor performance, but to say you're an AFL quality player, go kick the shit out of the reserves for a few and we'll bring you back in when you're feeling good about yourself and ready to let rip again. First year kids do get tired after all. Voss did what he did though, so that Sheldon would be better prepared for this year and next etc.

As to who to play instead, I would've given Todd Banfield or Tom Rockliff the call up.

[FootyFan]

Aww, Diddums, I don't think there was ANY need for all your insults in your post. You were trying to be polite, were you?

Next time you try to do something normal and nice, maybe not put such a hypocritical title and try by by not starting off your reply by "If you read". makes you seem like kind of a dick. If you need any pointers on knowing how not to be an arsehole, (not saying you are one, just think you need a little direction in that little brain of yours <--- that was an insult, by the way) then probably just don't post at this forum. That'd fix it, and make a lot of us very, very happy.

And so what if I wanted Luke Ball at the Lions? My bad for wanting a fucking quality midfielder with experience. I'd want him on the field rather than Vossy's love child, Sam Sheldon.

It is me BrisLions

Neway I wish to apologise for my language though I think you started in the first place and I could have made petty insults with you in the first place. E.G The fact that you are from Tasmania and probably know your cousin a little too well.

Anyway I am too mature and have decided to delete that account as I was probs too rude on it, turn a new leaf over if you will.

So I will discuss no more personal things and only football related. Therefore Luke Ball has no place in the Lions firstly we already have Black and Power who play similar roles in the fact that they are ball winning midfielders and are better disposals of the ball. Luke Ball couldn't hit the backside of a barn when kicking and would cost as much as Bradshaw. So he would take Blacky's ball and miss the target completely, yeah we really want him ........ not! Anyway we do have to look towards the future in some respects and he is 25. We do have to get some kids you know and if we picked Luke Ball first up we wouldn't have got Callum Bartlett and our first pick would have been Ryan Harwood who I enjoy playing for the lions but isnt as good as Bartlett.

Also Sam Sheldon played well I thought though he is only a kid and he has to be given opportunities. His dad was an absolute footballing great and I originally thought he got to Brisbane through Ken. Though after getting drafted he has proven himself. He is a running half-back with a good kick which is something we all want and Vossy loves. He may have carried him a bit at the end but he did prove himself earlier and I think Vossy was just waiting for that game when he all got it back together.

BTW I know what an insult is and I do have a large amount of intellect and I can prove it though I wont bore you, so don't bring that into it.

[RoyBoys]

Nap..Sheldon has been in the system for a few years now..You will see the likes of Rockliff who was only drafted last year do there time like sheldon has in the reserves before getting a regular call to play seniors.They need 2 or 3 years in the system before there bodies are ready and hardened to play AFL. Rich is the only exception to this rule the kid was playing against hardened bodies in the WAFL. These other kids need time to harden there bodies before they start playing regular AFL football.

[RoyBoys]

FootyFan you just don't know how to let go..Come on dude your post was ok untill the last remark. Just let it go bro you have nothing to prove it's a forum about footy not about insults..You don't have to justify yourself either every time you post. Just put your opinion and read others and then let it go!

[Jedstheman]

Nap..Sheldon has been in the system for a few years now..You will see the likes of Rockliff who was only drafted last year do there time like sheldon has in the reserves before getting a regular call to play seniors.They need 2 or 3 years in the system before there bodies are ready and hardened to play AFL. Rich is the only exception to this rule the kid was playing against hardened bodies in the WAFL. These other kids need time to harden there bodies before they start playing regular AFL football.


Roy I am not a huge Sheldon fan and would like to no when the Lions are fully fit is he in your best 22?I don't see him playing much at all in 2010 Voss did offer him to the Blues at one stage in the Fev trade when things broke down.

[NapalmDth]

Nap..Sheldon has been in the system for a few years now..You will see the likes of Rockliff who was only drafted last year do there time like sheldon has in the reserves before getting a regular call to play seniors.They need 2 or 3 years in the system before there bodies are ready and hardened to play AFL. Rich is the only exception to this rule the kid was playing against hardened bodies in the WAFL. These other kids need time to harden there bodies before they start playing regular AFL football.

Yeah I know. That's the other reason Voss' given Sheldon the time I think. 2 years killed by injury are bloody hard to make up for so Vossy pumped a full season into him to try'n get him back on track. He obviously believes there's something more there to persist with it. Despite his extra years, his conditioning in `09 was no better than a raw recruit really. I really wanted Rocky in because of our massive weakness for crumbing forwards. `10 will be much better though and hopefully the `09 treatment will have seriously helped Sheldon out.

[christicehurst]

It is me BrisLions

Neway I wish to apologise for my language though I think you started in the first place and I could have made petty insults with you in the first place. E.G The fact that you are from Tasmania and probably know your cousin a little too well.

Anyway I am too mature and have decided to delete that account as I was probs too rude on it, turn a new leaf over if you will.

So I will discuss no more personal things and only football related. Therefore Luke Ball has no place in the Lions firstly we already have Black and Power who play similar roles in the fact that they are ball winning midfielders and are better disposals of the ball. Luke Ball couldn't hit the backside of a barn when kicking and would cost as much as Bradshaw. So he would take Blacky's ball and miss the target completely, yeah we really want him ........ not! Anyway we do have to look towards the future in some respects and he is 25. We do have to get some kids you know and if we picked Luke Ball first up we wouldn't have got Callum Bartlett and our first pick would have been Ryan Harwood who I enjoy playing for the lions but isnt as good as Bartlett.

Also Sam Sheldon played well I thought though he is only a kid and he has to be given opportunities. His dad was an absolute footballing great and I originally thought he got to Brisbane through Ken. Though after getting drafted he has proven himself. He is a running half-back with a good kick which is something we all want and Vossy loves. He may have carried him a bit at the end but he did prove himself earlier and I think Vossy was just waiting for that game when he all got it back together.

BTW I know what an insult is and I do have a large amount of intellect and I can prove it though I wont bore you, so don't bring that into it.

I decide when you return to the forum and now you got yourself a IP Ban as well.

[Jedstheman]

Yeah I know. That's the other reason Voss' given Sheldon the time I think. 2 years killed by injury are bloody hard to make up for so Vossy pumped a full season into him to try'n get him back on track. He obviously believes there's something more there to persist with it. Despite his extra years, his conditioning in `09 was no better than a raw recruit really. I really wanted Rocky in because of our massive weakness for crumbing forwards. `10 will be much better though and hopefully the `09 treatment will have seriously helped Sheldon out.

TeeRock will be a player watched him at state level this year and he was really good stood out if you no what I mean it was a pity his first game was against the pies in a big game at the "G" I just new he was gunna have a quiet game after Marking but missing his only goal attempt in the first quarter although he was quiet up forward Vossy did throw him in the middle and he didn't do alot but didn't not look lost he and Sheldon will both be battling for a bench spot next season I reckon

[Hayley]

Hayley whats wrong with Sam Sheldon? Do you forget he is a first year player!! He played 19 games last season averaged 11.5 disposals and 2.2 tackles a game I don't think that is a bad first effort..Give the kid a go he is only 20 years old!!

Don't get me wrong, he's a quality kid. But towards the end of the season, like Ash said, his form definitely dropped off a bit and a better replacement might have been required. Especially in the final against the Doggies.

By the way, 2009 might have been his first year playing in the seniors, but it was his second or third year at the Lions. So I don't really think you can give him the excuse that he's a first year player ;) lol

[RoyBoys]

Hayley he is a first year player..playing for the reserves doesnt count..His stats shows him as only playing one season. :-P

[Hayley]

He's been on an AFL list for a few years. So again, he's not a first year player.

Pity he couldn't crack the seniors sooner.

[RoyBoys]

Rookies are on the AFL list that does not make them first year players.. You have to be on the field with the senior team to be counted as a player..Sitting on the sidelines and watching does not make you a senior player. Got to be out there with the boys!! This was Sheldon first year at AFL level!!

[Jedstheman]

Hayley he is a first year player..playing for the reserves doesnt count..His stats shows him as only playing one season. :-P

But he has still been in the system for three years with elite training deit and so forth training with men too think she has a point Roy:D

[NapalmDth]

He's been on an AFL list for a few years. So again, he's not a first year player.

Pity he couldn't crack the seniors sooner.

Glandular Fever, Osteitis Pubis etc. Poor buggers had a wretched run with injury & illness. He's not a 1st year but he may as well have been. I honestly thought he'd never play. Poor old Pat Garner didn't get the same extended lifeline. I certainly hope we get to see why Voss has persisted so much in Sams case.

But he has still been in the system for three years with elite training deit and so forth training with men too think she has a point Roy:D

diet: yes training: no.. Sam spent over a year curled up in bed.. lucky bastard :p

[RoyBoys]

Jed this year I would have sheldon on the bench at best!

B: Patful Merrett Drummond
HB: Mgrath Maguire Adcock
C: Staker Black Brennan
HF Power Brown Sherman
FF Buchanan Fevola X Clarke
Foll: M Clark Rich Raines
Int Sheldon Lewenberger Polkinghorne Redden

This is what my line up would be with possibly stiller or selwood taking sheldons position on the bench depending who we played!

Jed and Hayley sorry let me re phrase it... this was Sheldon's first year at playing at the AFL level

[Jedstheman]

Glandular Fever, Osteitis Pubis etc. Poor buggers had a wretched run with injury & illness. He's not a 1st year but he may as well have been. I honestly thought he'd never play. Poor old Pat Garner didn't get the same extended lifeline. I certainly hope we get to see why Voss has persisted so much in Sams case.

Don't get me started on Garner Palm the promise that kid showed mate I almost cried each time he did his knee worst luck of any player ever we were robbed with him if he had of stayed fit and on the feild he would be nearing stardom about now would have played around 60 odd games for us and that thumping kick of his would have been deadly together with Rich and Drummo...........never new Sheldon had Glandular fever always thought Merret was the fella that had that it would of no doubt had an effect on his development along with the O.P but.

[Jedstheman]

Jed this year I would have sheldon on the bench at best!

B: Patful Merrett Drummond
HB: Mgrath Maguire Adcock
C: Staker Black Brennan
HF Power Brown Sherman
FF Buchanan Fevola X Clarke
Foll: M Clark Rich Raines
Int Sheldon Lewenberger Polkinghorne Redden

This is what my line up would be with possibly stiller or selwood taking sheldons position on the bench depending who we played!

Jed and Hayley sorry let me re phrase it... this was Sheldon's first year at playing at the AFL level

Do you think Proud will come into the mix?And are you saying Risky and TeeJays Careers are over?

Enough about Sheldon for a minute eh?

[RoyBoys]

Richetteli I don't think Voss rates as you would have seen at trade time..Teejay mate has to pull his finger out if he wants to play for the lions needs to be consistant. At best he would play where I have X.Clarke his midfielder days are over. Proud has not impressed me and his of field behaviour has left a sour taste I believe in Voss's mouth. But I could be wrong I guess it's a waiting game!

I also think he might play drummond on the wing to make use of his penetrating kick.

[Jedstheman]

I am a little mixed on Risky myself but you would have to put him onball before Raines he is just a harder body who doesn't shy away from the contest offensively there about the same but you would have to rate Risky Higher and so too with TeeJay yeah he had some shitters last year but also some Blinders so I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the whole Raines onball saga dude:D

[RoyBoys]

Jed we can't agree to disagree Raines has never played as a midfielder he was used as a defender while playing for Richmond. Yet he still averages 17.4 disposals per game. One thing why I like Raines on the ball before the other 2 is that he is better at breaking the lines than both Teejay and Rischetelli. Raines will turn out to be a similar player to cousins mark my words!! The kid is only 23 has only played 56 games and all of them was as a defender yet his till managed to rack up the disposals.

[Balony_pony16]

I actually rate Sheldon. Yes his stats aren't high and he dropped off a bit in the back end of the season...but he has great composure with the ball and excellent skills, and I don't think many players beat him that badly.

Raines is a running backman who will free up adcock & mcgrath. I think I saw someone mention him as a mid.

TJ will get better when he gets rid of that beard...seriously, I recon TJ will play much better in a more balanced Lions team

[Balony_pony16]

Risky needs to make it as a midfielder. If I watch him waste a HF spot all season again in 2010 I will go crazy...I think the best option for the team is for Risky to play off the bench for midfield rotations before he does a luke ball and bails at the end of the season

[RoyBoys]

Balony I say let him go if he wants to go! Raines will be much better through the midfield than anyone you mention simply because he can break the lines better.Raines has a big engine he will play a similar role to what cousins did. Run through the midfield and break the lines. Teejay is silky but he is slow and not hard enough his career as a midfielder is over. Rischetteli is a tagger at best if he plays in the midfield..

[NapalmDth]

We should probably have this conversation in the team 2010 setup thread guys. Kind of derailing the rookie draft thread here ;)

[christicehurst]

We should probably have this conversation in the team 2010 setup thread guys. Kind of derailing the rookie draft thread here ;)

He's right if tomorrow we look like with the lodgment we won't be drafting any players then this thread will be closed.

[NapalmDth]

He's right if tomorrow we look like with the lodgment we won't be drafting any players then this thread will be closed.

We'll definitely be taking rookies. Broc & Yoshi are already locked in along with Niall as an intl. I actually wouldn't be too surprised if we took Coughlan as a mature rookie. Would be the pick of the available mature agers. Also, keep your ears out for more intl. rookie news.

[Balony_pony16]

Balony I say let him go if he wants to go! Raines will be much better through the midfield than anyone you mention simply because he can break the lines better.Raines has a big engine he will play a similar role to what cousins did. Run through the midfield and break the lines. Teejay is silky but he is slow and not hard enough his career as a midfielder is over. Rischetteli is a tagger at best if he plays in the midfield..

raines will never be like cousins...cousins was a hf/mid (ie goalkicking mid), whose main weapon was his endurance... I think McGrath will be put in the middle before raines. I like raines in the backlines as he will demand some of the ball for rebounds and not be a passenger

[NapalmDth]

Lions Team Line Up 2010 Thread (http://www.brisbanelionsunited.com/showthread.php?t=24289&page=10) *hint hint*

[b_lions16]

Broc is a lock, and so is Niall who is training with us from Ireland.
Regarding Sheldon, I am not a fan of the kid and will stand by in saying that he did not deserve any of his last six or seven games in the team. He was absolute dipshit to be hones. He had about under 10 possessions and when he got the ball, he looked quite shaky and didn't know what to do with it. I always say a stint in the Twos doesn't hurt and it this case it would actually help due to the fact that it would get his arse back into gear. This 'I'm in the Seniors and I'm not deserving it' is not working and Vossy needs to get the rocks out of his head and get Sam out of the Seniors, ASAP!
On Rischitelli, he can't play this floating crap anymore, onball or nothing for him. Next year is make or break, IMO...he has been hyped up so much and delivered so little. He should be played as a clearance/stoppage player (inside mid), because head over the footy isn't a problem for him.
Proud's got onball labelled all over him, hint, the Brown incident. Has a Byron Pickett mould and just needs to concentrate on not giving away silly free kicks and not glassing random people in the face. ;)
Back on the Rookie Draft, Dec 16, am I right?...Well, till then, I reckon we will be redrafting King if his medical rumours are not true and should look to pick up AA-TAC CUP forward, Panos.

[lion4life]

Broc is a lock, and so is Niall who is training with us from Ireland.
Regarding Sheldon, I am not a fan of the kid and will stand by in saying that he did not deserve any of his last six or seven games in the team. He was absolute dipshit to be hones. He had about under 10 possessions and when he got the ball, he looked quite shaky and didn't know what to do with it. I always say a stint in the Twos doesn't hurt and it this case it would actually help due to the fact that it would get his arse back into gear. This 'I'm in the Seniors and I'm not deserving it' is not working and Vossy needs to get the rocks out of his head and get Sam out of the Seniors, ASAP!
On Rischitelli, he can't play this floating crap anymore, onball or nothing for him. Next year is make or break, IMO...he has been hyped up so much and delivered so little. He should be played as a clearance/stoppage player (inside mid), because head over the footy isn't a problem for him.
Proud's got onball labelled all over him, hint, the Brown incident. Has a Byron Pickett mould and just needs to concentrate on not giving away silly free kicks and not glassing random people in the face. ;)
Back on the Rookie Draft, Dec 16, am I right?...Well, till then, I reckon we will be redrafting King if his medical rumours are not true and should look to pick up AA-TAC CUP forward, Panos.

From what i have heard apparently King has lost interest in football and is pursuing an athletics career

[b_lions16]

From what i have heard apparently King has lost interest in football and is pursuing an athletics career
Meh, I'm gettin' confuzzled...but if he wants to go for an Athletics career then he'll be good @ it considering he was a 400m running champ in his Junior Years.

[christicehurst]

Draft discussion only - one more piece about the Team line up and this thread closes for good.

[worbsy]

Kallen had better be rookie listed. So disappointed he was overlooked in the draft.

Clubs would be mad to overlook him again.

[b_lions16]

Does anyone remember that Ah Chee guy who shone in the States earlier in the year and touted as an early pick in the National Draft?

[worbsy]

Yeah, Ah Chee looked the goods from the games I saw in the TAC cup. Did anyone pick him up?

[b_lions16]

Yeah, Ah Chee looked the goods from the games I saw in the TAC cup. Did anyone pick him up?
Nah...he didn't get drafted...good pick in the Rookie Draft for us, maybe? ;)

[RoyBoys]

Roland Ah Chee I was very surprised not one picked him to tell you the truth looks extremely talented bit on the skinny side 76kg nothing our fitness gurus can't fix ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5SoZRp6Ys

Bio

Hard-running midfielder that can play both inside and outside. Ability to win contested ball, run the lines and deliver the footy well are strengths. Had an outstanding NAB AFL U18 Championships for NT, averaging 26 disposals per game. His testing was exceptional with a level 15.5 beep test at the SA screening session.

[RoyBoys]

I think we should also have a look at Sam Dwyer as a rookie Smart midfielder/forward who likes to take the game on with his run and carry. Elusive in traffic with very clean use by foot. Named on a wing in the 2009 VFL team of the year.

And because we a lacking in small forwards possibly christoper Cain he kicked 27 goals for port melbourne last year.

Bio: Well-balanced goalkicking forward/midfielder with good foot skills off both sides of the body. Decision making and an ability to win his own ball are strengths.

[b_lions16]

NAB PRESEASON DRAFT ORDER

1. Melbourne
2. Richmond
3. Fremantle
4. Sydney Swans
5. West Coast
6. Port Adelaide
7. Essendon
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87915/default.aspx

[b_lions16]

PERMISSION TO TRAIN LIST

ADELAIDE
Nil

BRISBANE LIONS
Claye Beams (Labrador)
Niall McKeever (Ireland)

CARLTON
Nil

COLLINGWOOD
Daniel Frost (Collingwood, VFL)
Kristopher Pendlebury (Collingwood, VFL)

ESSENDON
Michael Barlow (Werribee)

FREMANTLE
Andrew Foster (Fremantle)
Kyle Hardingham (East Fremantle)
Adam McPhee (Essendon)
Matt Riggio (North Melbourne)
Alex Silvagni (Casey)
Danny Stanley (Collingwood)

GEELONG
Bryce Carroll (Essendon)
Dan McKenna (Geelong)
Daniel O'Keefe (Sydney Swans)
Guy O'Keefe (Western Bulldogs)
Bryn Weadon (Geelong)

HAWTHORN
Dean Putt (Richmond)
Wayde Skipper (Western Bulldogs)

MELBOURNE
Joel McDonald (Brisbane Lions)

NORTH MELBOURNE
Todd Grayson (Gold Coast)
Matthew Laidlaw (Sydney Swans)

PORT ADELAIDE
Jonathan Beech (West Adelaide)
Alex Carey (Glenelg)
Glenn Dawson (Port Adelaide)
Matthew Goldsworthy (Woodville-West Torrens)
Jack Hannath (Central District)
Ben Hansen (Sturt)
Thomas Harms (Sturt)
Cameron Hitchcock (Glenelg)
Matthew Jaensch (Sturt)
Terry Milera (Port Magpies)
Bradley Palipuaminni (NT Thunder/Tiwi Bombers)
Matthew Panos (Norwood)
Damien Roe (NT Thunder/Nightcliff)
Taite Silverlock (West Adelaide)
Jack Stephens (Sturt)
Mitchell Taylor (NT Thunder/Wanderers)
Dean Terlich (Norwood)
Derick Wanganeen (Port Magpies)
Daniel Webb (West Adelaide)

RICHMOND
Jayden Cass (Eastern Rangers)
Josh Free (North Ballarat)
Alex Goodingham (Dandenong Stingrays)
Dylan Grimes (Northern Knights)
James Hallahan (Dandenong Stingrays)
Robbie Hicks (Calder Cannons)
Ben Jakobi (Sandringham Dragons)
Justin Kadhlefelt (Southport)
James O’Rielly (Ireland)
Graham Polak (Richmond)
Relton Roberts (Wanderers)
Luke Tobin (Sandringham Dragons)

ST KILDA
Josh Grabowski (Geelong Falcons)
Tom Hill (Calder Cannons)
John Rayner (Western Jets)

SYDNEY SWANS
Daniel Bradshaw (Brisbane Lions)
Sam Crichton (Sydney Uni)
Dylan McNeil (Murray Bushrangers)
Henry Playfair (Sydney Swans)

WEST COAST
Nil

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Majak Daw (Western Jets)
Jake Edwards (Carlton)
Malcolm Lynch (Western Bulldogs)
Dane Rampe (Williamstown)
Patrick Rose (Williamstown)
John Shaw (Western Bulldogs)

[b_lions16]

BTW, Claye Beams is the younger brother of Dayne @ Collingwood. I reckon we should pick him up in the Rookie Draft because if he is going to turn out anything like he's bro, then he will be an absolute steal.
CLAYE Beams, the 17-year-old brother of Collingwood's Dayne Beams, will put himself up for November's AFL draft after impressing in six senior games for Labrador in the QAFL.
AFL club scouts have been spotted at his past two games.
"Footy was always my dream - cricket was something I played in the off-season - but I was pretty small as a kid and realistically I thought I had more chance of making it in cricket," said Beams, who has grown to 182cm and 78kg.
"Watching Dayne play re-ignited the footy spark and I decided to have a crack at it. I haven't regretted it for one second."
Beams has decided to drop back to the seconds this weekend in order to qualify for the finals, which will extend his season and maximise his chance of impressing AFL judges.
Only three months ago the talented cricketer asked Labrador for a game.
After three weeks of training, Beams played four games in the reserves before playing six games in the seniors.
Beams played first-grade cricket last year.
He represented the Gold Coast Stingrays under-14 team and Queensland at under-12 level in a side including Josh Thomas, who recently rebuffed a senior contract with the Gold Coast to chase his AFL dream in 2010 via the draft.
Dayne Beams, 19, this week confirmed he would stay with Collingwood until at least the end of the 2012 season. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft-lures-claye-beams/story-e6frf9jf-1225764576044

[b_lions16]

http://velocitysports.com.au/images/ClayeBeams_LabradorJumper_Aug09.JPG
^ CLAYE BEAMS...Got his tatts like Dayne :D ^

[b_lions16]

BRISBANE LIONS
Pre-season selections: Nil
Rookie selections: 8 (16, 32, 45, 57, 67)
Locked in: Niall McKeever - international, 74 (TBC - Qld pre-selection), 76 (TBC - Qld pre-selection), 78 (TBC - Qld pre-selection)
Needs: With Joel Macdonald set to join Melbourne and Tim Notting retired, the revamped Lions may target a mid-sized defender/forward. A tallish midfielder would also be a handy acquisition.
In their sights: Irishman McKeever has already been snapped up, joining another countryman, Pearce Hanley, at the Lions. The club also has the opportunity of selecting three local players before the rookie draft starts. Expect Queenslanders Todd Grayson, Claye Beams and Brock McCauley to come under serious consideration. Kieren King may also be redrafted after just one season on the senior list.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88007/default.aspx

[lions_girl_4life]

All those boys sound good, I'd hope, at the moment, that we re-drafted King and got Beams, he sounds pretty good.

[b_lions16]

Round 1
1 - Gold Coast
2 - Gold Coast
3 - Gold Coast
4 - Gold Coast
5 - Gold Coast
6 - Melbourne
7 - Richmond
8 - Fremantle
9 - North Melbourne
10 - Sydney Swans
11 - West Coast Eagles
12 - Port Adelaide
13 - Hawthorn
14 - Essendon
15 - Carlton
16 - Brisbane Lions
17 - Adelaide
18 - Collingwood
19 - Western Bulldogs
20 - St Kilda
21 - Geelong Cats
Round 2
22 - Melbourne
23 - Richmond
24 - Fremantle
25 - North Melbourne
26 - Sydney Swans
27 - West Coast Eagles
28 - Port Adelaide
29 - Hawthorn
30 - Essendon
31 - Carlton
32 - Brisbane Lions
33 - Adelaide
34 - Collingwood
35 - Western Bulldogs
36 - St Kilda
37 - Geelong Cats
Round 3
38 - Richmond
39 - Sydney Swans
40 - West Coast Eagles
41 - Port Adelaide
42 - Hawthorn (NSW scholarship)
43 - Essendon
44 - Carlton
45 - Brisbane Lions
46 - Adelaide
47 - Collingwood (International)
48 - Western Bulldogs
49 - St Kilda
50 - Geelong Cats
Round 4
51 - Richmond
52 - Sydney Swans
53 - West Coast Eagles
54 - Port Adelaide
55 - Essendon
56 - Carlton
57 - Brisbane Lions
58 - Adelaide (NSW scholarship)
59 - Western Bulldogs
60 - St Kilda
61 - Geelong Cats
Round 5
62 - Richmond
63 - Sydney Swans (International)
64 - Port Adelaide (Three-year non-registered)
65 - Essendon
66 - Carlton
67 - Brisbane Lions (International)
68 - Western Bulldogs
69 - St Kilda (International)
Round 6
70 - Richmond (International)
71 - Sydney Swans (NSW scholarship)
72 - Port Adelaide (NSW scholarship)
73 - Carlton (International)
74 - Brisbane Lions (Qld pre-selection)
Round 7
75 - Sydney Swans (NSW pre-selection)
76 - Brisbane Lions (Qld pre-selection)
Round 8
77 - Sydney Swans (NSW pre-selection)
78 - Brisbane Lions (Qld pre-selection)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88018/default.aspx

[lions_girl_4life]

You only just beat me Scotty, I was just about to post that... So we have Picks 16, 32, 45, 57, 67, 74 and 78, with 67 being international and 74 and 78 being QLD pre-selection

[lion4life]

You only just beat me Scotty, I was just about to post that... So we have Picks 16, 32, 45, 57, 67, 74 and 78, with 67 being international and 74 and 78 being QLD pre-selection

74,76 and 78 are all international :)

[RoyBoys]

16 - Brisbane Lions
32 - Brisbane Lions
45 - Brisbane Lions
57 - Brisbane Lions
67 - Brisbane Lions (International)
74 - Brisbane Lions (Qld pre-selection)
76 - Brisbane Lions (Qld pre-selection)
78 - Brisbane Lions (Qld pre-selection)

My guess is Grayson, McCauley and Fowler/Beams all will be picked with 74, 76, 78 even before the draft begins

67 Niall McKeever (locked in already international)
74 Todd Grayson
76 Broc McCauley: good ruck prospect
78 Claye Beams/Fowler/Josh Milani

[RoyBoys]

Josh Milani

Height: 192cm
Weight: 92kg
DOB: 03/05/91
Recruited from: Gold Coast (QLD)
Bio: Big bodied tall defender whose vertical jump allows him to consistently spoil strongly or take the contested mark. His leap and physical strength enable him to push into the ruck when required. His 2.82sec for 20m was the quickest of all at state screenings across Australia. QLD U18 representative in 2009.

http://www.afl.com.au/offseason/collingwood/collingwooddraftmachine/tabid/15236/newsid/86115/default.aspx

Matt Fowler

Height: 184cm
Weight: 85kg
DOB: 11/10/91
Recruited from: Southport
Bio: Clean one-grab lead-up forward who times his leads beautifully. A constant performer at TAC Cup level against quality defenders. Kicked 38 goals for Gold Coast in 2009 TAC Cup from 17 matches. Tested well at Victorian screen with 2.98sec 20m and 68cm standing jump (top 20 per cent).


Todd Grayson

Height: 183cm
Weight: 77kg
DOB: 27/09/91
Recruited from: Labrador
Bio: Inside midfielder whose aggressive attack on the ball and his opponent is a distinct strength. Terrific tackler who is strong overhead for his size. Can run all day, as shown with his impressive 15.1 beep test run at state screenings.


Broc McCauley

Athletic tap ruckman who had an ultra impressive 2009 for Southport. Super quick and agile for his size who uses his leap to get over the top of opponents. Can go forward and provide a strong target. His 2.94sec 20m at Vic screen outstanding.

http://www.afl.com.au/offseason/hawthorn/hawthorndraftmachine/tabid/15240/newsid/86110/default.aspx

[b_lions16]

NORTHERN Territory prospect Liam Patrick has signed a two-year contract with Gold Coast, dashing any hopes other clubs had of taking him in next week's NAB AFL Pre-season and Rookie drafts.
The Gold Coast’s newest acquisition, nicknamed the ‘Lajamanu Lightning Bolt’, has everything that his cousin Liam Jurrah has, according to football manager Marcus Ashcroft.
Patrick joins the club as a Northern Territory priority pick, which enables the Gold Coast to keep their first five selections in Tuesday’s NAB AFL Rookie Draft.
Ashcroft said the club’s recruiters had earmarked Patrick after closely watching him play for Northern Territory Football League side Wanderers throughout the year, and had attributes that were already at an AFL level.
“I think his speed is up to AFL standard,” Ashcroft told afl.com.au.
“He’s obviously very quick, [he’s] got the X-factor about him. He’s certainly very skilful so we’re thinking he really adds something different to our side,” Ashcroft said.
Ashcroft said 2010 provided an opportunity for the Gold Coast to fine tune Patrick’s development and get a feel for where he plays best prior to the club’s AFL debut in 2011.
“He played mainly up forward and through the ruck for the Wanderers this year and we’re just going to give him a chance to play in different positions because there’s something different about him,” he said.
At 21 years of age, Patrick will be one of the more mature players in the Gold Coast squad, bringing a level of development that Ashcroft says will hold him in good stead for stepping straight into the team’s first senior side.
“He’s very slight so we need to make sure we put some time into him at the gym just to get him a bit stronger," Ashcroft said.
“With any new player that comes into an AFL program we just need to make sure they’re technically very proficient in all types of their gym work and their core work and stretching and those sorts of things.”
Patrick, who comes from the desert community of Lajamanu, south-west of Katherine, will fly back to Darwin on Saturday, with a view to relocating to the Gold Coast with his wife and young child in time for pre-season training, which begins on January 6.
The Gold Coast football department is confident their new recruit can emulate his cousin, who has shown feats of freakish athleticism in just nine games for Melbourne, proliferating nicknames such as the ‘Cougar’, ‘Jurrahcane’ and the ‘Walpiri Wizard’.
“There are a lot of similarities. If he can turn out like Jurrah, he’d be a fine acquisition for us,” Ashcroft said.
“We think he’s got everything that Jurrah has shown in the AFL and that’s why we’ve put some time into looking at him over this last year.”
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88022/default.aspx
Ah crap...I was hoping we could get this guy...meh, he's gunna be a star, tho. ;)

[b_lions16]

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft
1 - Melbourne - Joel Macdonald (Brisbane Lions)
2 - Richmond - Dylan Grimes (Northern Knights)
3 - Fremantle - Adam McPhee (Essendon)
4 - Sydney Swans - Daniel Bradshaw (Brisbane Lions)
5 - West Coast - Simon White (Subiaco)
6 - Port Adelaide - Cameron Cloke (Carlton)
7 - Essendon - Michael Barlow (Werribee)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft
Round one
1 - Gold Coast - Sam Iles (Box Hill Hawks)
2 - Gold Coast - Joseph Dare (Geelong Falcons)
3 - Gold Coast - Guy O'Keefe (Western Bulldogs)
4 - Gold Coast - Daniel Harris (North Melbourne)
5 - Gold Coast - Luke Ablett (Sydney Swans)
Round one (continued)
6 - Melbourne - Michael Newton (Melbourne)
7 - Richmond - Luke Thompson (Geelong Falcons)
8 - Fremantle - Josh Donaldson (West Perth)
9 - North Melbourne - Majak Daw (Western Jets)
10 - Sydney Swans - Jack Weston (Gippsland Power)
11 - West Coast - Mark Hutchings (East Perth)
12 - Port Adelaide - Derick Wanganeen (Port Adelaide Magpies)
13 - Hawthorn - Matt Fowler (Gold Coast)
14 - Essendon - Serhat Temel (Calder Cannons)
15 - Carlton - Matthew Panos (Norwood)
16 - Brisbane Lions - Mitch Golby (Gippsland Power)
17 - Adelaide - Alex Carey (Glenelg)
18 - Collingwood - Scott Harding (Brisbane Lions)
19 - Western Bulldogs - Josh Dyson (Eastern Ranges)
20 - St Kilda - Tom Hill (Northern Knights)
21 - Geelong - Mitch Fisher (Geelong Falcons)
Round two
22 - Melbourne - John Meesen (Melbourne)
23 - Richmond - Robbie Hicks (Calder Cannons)
24 - Fremantle - Kyle Hardingham (East Fremantle)
25 - North Melbourne - Matthew Laidlaw (Sydney Swans)
26 - Sydney Swans - Kallen Geary (Bendigo Pioneers)
27 - West Coast - Cameron Kickett (Perth)
28 - Port Adelaide - Jack Hannath (Central District)
29 - Hawthorn - Wayde Skipper (Western Bulldogs)
30 - Essendon - Mitch Taylor (Northern Territory Thunder)
31 - Carlton - Tom McKenzie (Geelong Falcons)
32 - Brisbane Lions - Sean Tighe (Western Jets)
33 - Adelaide - Alex Stopp (Norwood)
34 - Collingwood - Jamie McNamara (West Coast)
35 - Western Bulldogs - Matthew Scott (Eastern Ranges)
36 - St Kilda - Daniel Scott-Collings (Glenelg)
37 - Geelong - Craig Pitt (Glenelg)
Round three
38 - Richmond - Tom Harms (Sturt)
39 - Sydney Swans - Henry Playfair (Sydney Swans)
40 - West Coast - John Bennell (Collingwood)
41 - Port Adelaide - Josh Giddings (Glenelg)
42 - Hawthorn - Michael Johnston (East Coast - NSW scholarship)
43 - Essendon - Kyle Hartigan (Western Jets)
44 - Carlton - Michael Coad (Sturt)
45 - Brisbane Lions - Sam Power (North Melbourne)
46 - Adelaide - Michael Thompson (Oakleigh Chargers)
47 - Collingwood - Seamus McNamara (Wisconsin, USA - international)
48 - Western Bulldogs - Jake Edwards (Carlton)
49 - St Kilda - Johnny Raynor (Western Jets)
50 - Geelong - Daniel O'Keefe (Sydney Swans)
Round four
51 - Richmond - Deon Gordon (Northern Territory Thunder)
52 - Sydney Swans - Pass
53 - West Coast - Ryan Davis (West Coast)
54 - Port Adelaide - Glenn Dawson (Port Adelaide)
55 - Essendon - Marcus Marigliani (Frankston)
56 - Carlton - Andrew Hooper (North Ballarat Rebels)
57 - Brisbane Lions - Kieran King (Brisbane Lions)
58 - Adelaide - Aidan Riley (Wollongong - NSW scholarship)
59 - Western Bulldogs - Cameron Pedersen (Box Hill Hawks)
60 - St Kilda - Jarryd Allen (St Kilda)
61 - Geelong - James Podsiadly (Geelong Cats, VFL)
Round five
62 - Richmond - Graham Polak (Richmond)
63 - Sydney Swans - Chris McKaigue (County Derry, Ireland - international)
64 - Port Adelaide - Daniel Bass (three-year non-registered player)
65 - Essendon - David Mirra (Eastern Ranges)
66 - Carlton - Jaryd Cachia (Northern Knights)
67 - Brisbane Lions - Niall McKeever (County Ulster, Ireland - international)
68 - Western Bulldogs - Patrick Rose (Williamstown)
69 - St Kilda - Tommy Walsh (County Kerry, Ireland - international)
Round six
70 - Richmond - Jamie O'Reilly (Down, Ireland - international)
71 - Sydney Swans - Nathan Gordon (NSW/ACT Rams - NSW scholarship)
72 - Port Adelaide - Jordan Johns (South Broken Hill - NSW scholarship)
73 - Carlton - Zach Tuohy (Laois, Ireland - international)
74 - Brisbane Lions - Todd Grayson (Gold Coast - Qld pre-selection)
Round seven
75 - Sydney Swans - Dylan McNeil (Murray Bushrangers - NSW pre-selection)
76 - Brisbane Lions - Claye Beams (Labrador - Qld pre-selection)
Round eight
77 - Sydney Swans - Sam Crichton (Sydney Uni - NSW pre-selection)
78 - Brisbane Lions - Broc McCauley (Southport - Qld pre-selection)
Thirty more to watch out for
1 - Roland Ah Chee (Northern Territory Thunder)
2 - Rhys Archard (North Adelaide)
3 - Jayden Cass (Eastern Ranges)
4 - Jonathan Ceglar (Murray Bushrangers)
5 - Josh Free (North Ballarat Rebels)
6 - Clinton Garlett (Swan Districts)
7 - Tom Hunter (Calder Cannons)
8 - Chris Irving (Seaford)
9 - Ben Jakobi (Sandringham Dragons)
10 - Dylan Jones (Sandringham Dragons)
11 - Aaron Kite (Adelaide)
12 - Tom Lee (Adelaide)
13 - James Meiklejohn (Port Adelaide Magpies)
14 - Luke McDonald (Eastern Ranges)
15 - Dan McKenna (Geelong)
16 - Brayden O'Hara (Central District)
17 - Shane Page (Bendigo Pioneers)
18 - Kris Pendlebury (Collingwood, VFL)
19 - Dean Putt (Richmond)
20 - Dane Rampe (Williamstown)
21 - Relton Roberts (Wanderers)
22 - Myles Sewell (North Ballarat Roosters)
23 - Robert Shirley (Adelaide)
24 - Alex Silvagni (Casey Scorpions)
25 - Orren Stephenson (North Ballarat Rebels)
26 - Andrew Strijk (West Perth)
27 - Kane Tenace (Geelong)
28 - Mitch Thorp (Hawthorn)
29 - Liam Tobin (Sandringham Dragons)
30 - Shane Valenti (Melbourne)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88057/default.aspx

[RoyBoys]

Sean Tighe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT6PQkqs9yI

[miloman]

Joel Mac is set to end up at the dees, am really disapointed the way he finished up at the lions, still a lot of confusion on what happend in the last couple of matches was he injured was he dropped. I would of loved to see him stay, he constantly punched above his weight doing jobs on reiwoldt, and fev. He is not full back or CHB but was forced to play there. I KNOW we have a bucketload of medium/attacking size defenders (mcgrath, addcock, drummo, hanley, collier and now raines, maguire staker,) but loved having him in the team, very good under pressure, made good choices, and had that bit of mongrel in him which reminded me of the scott bros. O well wish him all the best wherever he ends up surely some one will pick him up is still young and has much to offer.

[RoyBoys]

"He is not full back or CHB but was forced to play there. I KNOW we have a bucketload of medium/attacking size defenders (mcgrath, addcock, drummo, hanley, collier and now raines, maguire staker,) but loved having him in the team, very good under pressure, made good choices, and had that bit of mongrel in him which reminded me of the scott bros"

Agreed but his use of the football was terrible. He would have been second to daziel when it came to clangers. Jmac's disposal was terrible doesn't matter how good of a player he might of been in your eyes. The reality is he was being overpaid and the lions cut him loose to free some of the salary cap pressures.

[b_lions16]

1. Brett Kirk (Sydney Swans)
1999 rookie draft selection No.40
The tough midfielder will enter his 12th season with 217 games, two club best and fairests, one All-Australian guernsey and a premiership to his name. He has co-captained the side since 2005 and is considered as one of the most durable and hard-working players in the league.

2. Dean Cox (West Coast)
2000 rookie draft selection No.28
Played only 13 games this year owing to a groin problem but has run out for 180 in total since his 2001 debut. The premiership big man is known as the league's premier ruckman and last year won his first club best and fairest and fourth All-Australian selection.

3. Matthew Boyd (Western Bulldogs)
2002 rookie draft selection No.23
Was plucked from the VFL and has become one of the most durable players around. He hasn't missed a game since round 15, 2005, has played 140 in total, and won his first best and fairest this year. He is in the Dogs' leadership group and could be considered to succeed Brad Johnson as captain.

4. Darren Jolly (Melbourne)
2001 rookie draft selection No.31
The premiership ruckman has played 166 games across two clubs (Melbourne and the Sydney Swans), with his agile tap work listing him among the best big men in the competition. He recently crossed to Collingwood and will have many opportunities to add to his consecutive streak of 113 matches at his new home.

5. Nathan Bock (Adelaide)
2002 rookie draft selection No.25
A stunning 2008 season saw the key position player earn his first best and fairest, All-Australian selection and International Rules representation. This year, his luck changed and injury kept him to 14 games. He has played 100 games since his 2004 debut and has recently been a key cog in the Crows' defence.

6. Russell Robertson (Melbourne)
1997 rookie draft selection No.48
After 13 years and 228 games, the high-leaping forward's career at Melbourne ended this year when he was delisted. A serious achilles injury in 2008 chopped that season in half and delayed his start to this year, but he still leaves Melbourne a three-time leading goalkicker with a total of 428 majors.

7. Tadhg Kennelly (Sydney Swans)
2000 rookie draft selection No.9
The Swans took a gamble on the Irishman and it was one that paid massive dividends. The dashing defender played 158 games between 2001 and 2008 - including the 2005 premiership - before returning to his homeland for one year to play Gaelic football. His creativity and pace more than justified his initial drafting.

8. Nick Maxwell (Collingwood)
2003 rookie draft selection No.15
The tough defender was named as Collingwood's captain following Scott Burns' retirement and did everything he could in 2009 to lead his side to victory. After being recruited from the VFL, Maxwell has played 118 games and is known as one of the most courageous defenders going around.

9. Brad Sewell (Hawthorn)
2003 rookie draft selection No.7
Has gained a reputation as a reliable running player across his 104-game career. He won the Hawks' best and fairest in 2007 after averaging nearly 22 possessions across 24 games. Over time, he has become an important part of the Hawks' engine.

10. Dale Morris (Western Bulldogs)
2005 rookie draft selection No.19
The Dogs again raided the VFL to recruit Morris, who has since become a coach's favourite with his hard-working, never-say-die attitude. With an ability to shut down players much taller than his 190cm, his third placing in this year's best and fairest and selection in the 2008 All-Australian team were well deserved. http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88048/default.aspx

[b_lions16]

THERE is so much to like about the AFL's rookie system, and I'm not just saying that because it gave me my start with the West Coast Eagles a decade ago.
The opportunities that will be presented in the 2010 NAB AFL Rookie Draft are massive, and they're opportunities that will be given to such a wide variety of footballers. That's the best thing about the rookie system.
In the national draft clubs steer towards the best available talent, but I think the rookie draft is perfect for the developing player; the player that is showing smaller glimpses of AFL potential.
Back in 1999, I wasn't at the level where I was a national draft player, but West Coast saw some potential in me and gave me the chance because of the rookie system.
I was a little different to most players going into that draft. I had played a little bit of colts and reserves football at the WAFL grade and I didn't attend the draft camp or speak to any clubs.
However, I got a phone call from West Coast recruiting manager Trevor Woodhouse the Friday afternoon before the Eagles' pre-season started. He said, 'We'd love for you to come down and train with us with the possibility of getting a spot on the rookie list'.
To be given a chance by an AFL club is just a great opportunity. You have so many good, talented people surrounding you; people with a huge amount of football knowledge.
When I was drafted back in 1999, the rookie draft had only been in operation for a couple of seasons and the common perception was that national draft players had a much better career ahead of them than rookies.
There were already a handful of success stories, though, and guys like Mal Michael, Russell Robertson and Nathan Bassett certainly showed me it was possible to kick-start your career from the rookie list if you put your head down and worked as hard as you could.
I look at the players that have been successful from the rookie list now and so many have turned into premiership players, especially at West Coast.
There's obviously more hype surrounding a top draft pick or a national draft player, but as soon as they walk into this football club they're a West Coast Eagles footballer and we do everything we can to make them the best player they can be.
The first hurdle for a rookie list player is earning promotion.
I remember being told by my coach in 2000, Ken Judge, that I would be promoted onto the senior list for the 2001 season. It was a great day for me and that's when the real hard work began.
One of the impressive things about the rookies that have come through our club is how honest and open they are about where their game is at.
That's particularly important on a rookie list, where players are generally exciting in a particular area of their game but need special attention in another.
A rookie list spot gives you the chance to learn and my advice to Tuesday's batch is to be an information sponge. You've got every avenue to succeed once you're at an AFL club, so put the work in and the rewards will certainly come.
It's probably disappointing for a few guys missing out on the national draft, but hopefully their chance comes tomorrow and they can make the most of it.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/88121/default.aspx

[Jedstheman]

Any news on the Yoshimura kid Palm said had been training with the club?

[RoyBoys]

Brisbane Lions look east for Sean Yoshiura

THE Brisbane Lions are poised to create history by signing the first Japanese-born player to an AFL list.

Sean Yoshiura will become a Lions rookie unless he is snatched by one of the clubs holding the seven selections in the pre-season draft, in which case he will go straight on to a senior list.

Draft coverage: SuperFooty will have every pick from the Pre-season and Rookie Drafts live from 11am.

But most clubs have already signalled their preferences, with Melbourne committed to former Lion Joel MacDonald, Sydney to Daniel Bradshaw and Fremantle to Adam McPhee.

Richmond, West Coast, Port Adelaide and Essendon are the other clubs with picks.

But none has sought AFL permission for Yoshiura to train with them, suggesting he will be available for Brisbane to sign as a rookie.



The 184cm, 68kg wingman was born in Japan and moved to Australia when he was seven. North Melbourne premiership player and former Fremantle captain Peter Bell is the other Asian-born player to have played AFL.

Bell was a Korean orphan who was brought to Australia as a toddler when he was adopted by a West Australian farming family.

Yoshiura is an elite endurance runner who is ranked 33 in the world in cross-country and has represented Australia at a world titles in the 5km race.

He chose football last season and caught the eye of the Lions when he was used for their reserves side in the QAFL, on loan from Mt Gravatt.

Yoshiura's starring performances ensured his stint as a Lion was shortlived because he was quickly called up to Mt Gravatt's senior side. He remained there for the rest of the season, including its grand final loss to Morningside.

Mt Gravatt coach David Lake said Yoshiura would be an asset to any club and described him as the player who has been the most pleasure to coach.

"He is an exceptional young man," he said.

"He is the only player I've ever had who has thanked me for every game, who thanks you after training.

"He caught the train from the Gold Coast straight after uni three nights a week to train and never missed a session even before he was in the senior side, he is that committed."



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-look-east-for-sean-yoshiura/story-e6frf9jf-1225810372217

[lions_girl_4life]

1. Committment
2. Endurance
3. Good bloke
Three things mentioned that are all bloody good... He won't be too bad of a signing

[NapalmDth]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/gotenks992/Mario/yoshi1.jpg

Gooooooooo Yoshi!!! Can't wait to call that out at the Gabba. He'll be a cult hero in no time.

[lions_girl_4life]

Yoshi is definately the nickname... hands down

[christicehurst]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/gotenks992/Mario/yoshi1.jpg

Gooooooooo Yoshi!!! Can't wait to call that out at the Gabba. He'll be a cult hero in no time.

Yoshi is my all time fav character!

[El Senor Chezzalenko]

I love Japanese! Especially sushi!

[lions_girl_4life]

Same here! I love sushi!

[NapalmDth]

PSD is run and done. JMac is a Demon at pick 1, Bradshaw is a Swan @ pick 4 and... wait for it....

Pick six (Port Adelaide): Scott Harding (Brisbane Lions)

[b_lions16]

PSD is run and done. Bradshaw is done and... wait for it....

Pick six (Port Adelaide): Scott Harding (Brisbane Lions)
Gunna go to tab to slam a 600 buck bet on Port to win the Spoon...what a dead set ripper. :D

[NapalmDth]

Gunna go to tab to slam a 600 buck bet on Port to win the Spoon...what a dead set ripper. :D

LoL. It wouldn't surprise me at all. Port are a farce.