Simon Black

[christicehurst]

http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/clubs/lions/black_profile-c.jpg

Number: 20
Height: 186cm
Weight: 83kg
Debut: Rd 1 1998
DOB: 03-04-1979
Recruited from: East Fremantle (WA)

Brisbane Lions United Medal Winner 2008 There is no player in the competition to have won more accolades than Simon Black – the closest, Chris Judd, only has one premiership medallion to match the Brownlow and Norm Smith. Black has some of the silkiest skills in football. He’s not the biggest, or the fastest, but very few could match him for purity of skill. Taken as a third-round draft pick in 1997, Black was a real steal for the Lions and has matured into one of the key leaders of the post-Voss era.

Black’s 2007 campaign started in scintillating fashion; his form in the first ⅔ of the year was near to career-best, including an equal personal best display of 39 possessions against Hawthorn. He polled 22 Brownlow votes to finish runner-up to Jimmy Bartel. His slow finish to the season cost him the chance to become a dual Brownlow Medallist, though his season was nevertheless extraordinary.

Black has started the 2008 season with aplomb, winning 30 classy possessions against West Coast in round 1. With skills like his, there is no limit to what he can accomplish. Added to this is his value around the club as a mentor for the younger players. Truly a champion – and a very nice person too – he is the real deal.
Introduction
Simon Black is one of the most decorated players in our merged Club’s history having achieved almost every individual honour in the game. His silky skills, leadership, durability and ball winning abilities keep him among the competition’s elite midfielders.

Background
• Black was born in Mount Isa in Queensland – the same birthplace of fellow sports stars Greg Norman and Pat Rafter – before his family settled in Perth.

• He was a standout junior 800m and 1500m runner as a junior and competed several times at national level.

• He joined East Fremantle Football Club and represented Western Australia in the 1997 U18 Championships where he earned All-Australian honours.

• Despite being widely tipped as a first round prospect, Black was drafted by the Brisbane Lions with selection No.31 in the 1997 National Draft.

1998
• Black was impressive during the pre-season and earned his senior debut in Round 1 against the Bulldogs at the Gabba.

• He played nine senior matches and averaged over 12 disposals during his debut season and took out the Club’s Best First Year Player award.

1999
• Black consolidated himself as an automatic senior selection and built a reputation for winning the ball in contested situations.

• He collected 20 possessions and kicked two goals against Geelong in Round 9 which earned him an AFL Rising Star Nomination. He ultimately finished third in the award behind Sydney’s Adam Goodes and Adelaide’s Brett Burton.

• He played a remarkable 22 matches and averaged close to 19 disposals.

• The West Australian claimed the Attitude Barometer award (Full Ground) and won the Lions Rookie of the Year award for the second consecutive season after club officials changed the selection criteria to fall in line with the AFL’s Rising Star award.

• His breakthrough season ended on a sour note when he suffered a fractured eye socket five minutes into the Preliminary Final loss to North Melbourne at the MCG.

• He was awarded nine votes in the Brownlow Medal – more than highly fancied team-mates Michael Voss and Jason Akermanis.

2000
• Black continued his evolution into an elite midfielder by finishing equal seventh in the Club Champion voting despite missing four matches with a broken hand.

• He averaging 23.9 disposals, led the competition in centre clearances on a per game basis and finished second behind Geelong’s Garry Hocking in hard-ball gets.

2001
• Black played every match from the start of the pre-season competition through to the Grand Final, leading the AFL in tackles and averaging a team-high 24.6 possessions.

• He was an integral member of the Lions’ breakthrough premiership win, was joint Club Champion with Captain Michael Voss and was named as the starting ruck-rover in the All-Australian team.

• He finished 5th in the AFLPA's Most Valuable Player voting behind Andrew McLeod, Michael Voss, Ben Cousins and Brett Ratten.

• Black also won a $39,000 car as the Herald Sun Player of the Year and figured in the top 10 in countless other media awards.

• He was expected to poll many more than his 12 votes in the Brownlow Medal after entering the count as one of the top fancies with the bookies.

• He represented Australia for the first and only time during the off-season as part of the International Rules Series against Ireland.

2002
• Black established himself among the true champions of the game by helping lead his team to its second consecutive premiership in his 100th AFL match.

• He collected 22 possessions in the Grand Final against Collingwood despite receiving a heavy tag from Scott Burns.

• He collected a whopping 583 possessions from 25 games and earned All-Australian selection for the second consecutive season.

• Comparisons between him and dual Brownlow Medallist Greg Williams began to surface because of his outstanding peripheral vision and ability to get the contested ball.

• He won the game’s most coveted individual honour – the Brownlow Medal – when he polled 25 votes to beat Port Adelaide’s Josh Francou (21) and skipper Michael Voss (17).

• Black, Voss and Jason Akermanis made more history on Grand Final day by becoming the first trio of awarded Brownlow Medallists to play in a premiership team together.

• He was awarded his second Merrett-Murray Medal – making him only the sixth player ever to win back-to-back best and fairest awards in back-to-back premiership years. He was also the sixth man in the history of the VFL/AFL to win the Brownlow and Club Champion award in a premiership year.

2003
• Black continued his sublime football career by averaging over 24 disposals in a year the Lions made history by winning their third consecutive premiership.

• He finished just one vote behind Michael Voss in the Club Champion award and was considered unlucky not to have been selected in the AFL All-Australian team.

• He was outstanding throughout the 2003 Finals Series and finished the season with one of the great Grand Final performances in recent history. Collingwood simply had no answer Black who collected a career-best 39 possessions – the most by any player in a Grand Final – and was duly rewarded with the Norm Smith Medal.

• With two Club Champion awards, a Brownlow Medal and Norm Smith Medal among his trophy collection, Black had the distinction of being one of the most decorated players in the game by the ripe old age of 24

2004
• Black claimed his third All-Australian honours following another outstanding season which saw him play every match and averaged 23.6 possessions.

• So highly was the Brownlow Medallist rated, that Port Adelaide’s 2004 pre-Grand Final planning was spent on trying to shut him down with specialist tagger Kane Cornes.

• Black was booked for striking during the Grand Final loss and, despite having never been reported before throughout his career, was subsequently suspended for three matches. The suspension broke a remarkable sequence of 107 consecutive matches dating back to 2000.

• He finished third overall in the Club Champion award – his fourth consecutive ‘podium’ finish.

2005
• Black’s season started three games late due to his suspension following an incident in the 2004 Grand Final but the interruption did nothing to curb his influence in his first game back – collecting 26 possessions against Hawthorn in Round 4.

• He remained at his consistent best and was a driving force behind the team’s mid-season turnaround which saw the Lions win five straight matches and seem a legitimate finals contender.

• However, a corked calf restricted him in the latter stages of the season as the Lions missed finals for only the second time since Black arrived in 1998.
2006
• Having overcome his injuries which hampered much of 2005, Black played every match and averaged 24 disposals per game.

• He exuded greater leadership qualities when faced with playing in the midfield without the likes of Michael Voss, Jason Akermanis and Nigel Lappin who were absent at times throughout the season.

• He made 30 more clearances, gathered 100 more loose-ball gets and had twice as many hard-ball gets over the season than any of his team-mates. He laid the most tackles at the Club as well.

• It came as no surprise that Black won his third Merrett-Murray Medal among other awards at the Club Champion dinner.

2007
• Black’s leadership qualities were formalised at the beginning of 2007 when he was named one of the four Lions Co-Captains following the retirement of skipper Michael Voss.

• He collected an equal career-high 39 disposals against Hawthorn in the opening round of the season and firmed considerably for the Brownlow Medal after the first dozen games.

• He was sublime in his 200th AFL match and earned three Brownlow votes for his performance despite the fact that his team were comfortably defeated by Collingwood at the Gabba.

• He played 21 of a possible 22 matches, averaged over 22 disposals per game, finished equal fifth in the Club’s Best & Fairest and took home the Lions’ Best Midfielder award.

• Black was also afforded the honour of being inducted as a Life Member of the Club having completed ten sensational seasons.

• He continued to attract the attention of the umpires and finished equal Runner-up in the Brownlow Medal behind Geelong’s Jimmy Bartel.

2008
• Black’s 11th season was arguably one of his finest – which seems absurd considering his previous decade of outstanding performances.

• He averaged a career-best 25.7 disposals per game and only collected fewer than 20 touches only twice in his 21 matches.

• After a blistering start to the season which saw him firm in Brownlow Medal betting, Black missed the team’s Round 7 clash with Geelong at Skilled Stadium due to a groin complaint. The injury also meant he was unable to represent the ‘Dream Team’ in the AFL’s Hall of Fame Tribute match the following week at the MCG.

• A 36 disposal performance against Melbourne during the ANZAC Round at the Gabba earned him the Club’s Sands of Gallipoli Medal for best afield – one of the few accolades that he had not previously received.

• He led the Club in contested possessions, hard ball gets, clearances and handballs despite struggling for much of the season with a groin injury.

• For the second consecutive season, Black finished Runner-up in the Brownlow Medal – only one vote shy of Western Bulldog midfielder Adam Cooney.

• He finished Runner-up in a tight race for the Club’s Best and Fairest award behind fellow Co-Captain Jonathan Brown – yet took home the Courier Mail Player of the Year award and the Club’s Best Midfielder award.

• When team-mate Jonathan Brown was chosen as sole Captain at the end of 2008, Black was selected as one of four Club Vice-Captains alongside Luke Power, Jed Adcock and Daniel Merrett.
2009
• Black suffered some injury setbacks during the pre-season (ankle surgery and a broken hand) which forced him to miss the Club's opening match of the season against the West Coast Eagles.

• The incredibly durable and consistent midfielder returned by Round 2 and went on to play the remainder of the season (23 matches) at his natural high quality level.

• Black averaged a near personal best 25.4 disposals throughout the season - including a season-high 37 touches in Round 20 against the Western Bulldogs - and was regularly among the teams best players.

• He was one of few contributors in the team's 93-point loss to Geelong in the Club's annual ANZAC Round which earned him his second consecutive Sands of Gallipoli Medal.

• He became only the 11th player in Club's 113-year history to reach 250 games with the Lions in Round 18 against Collingwood. Unfortunately he didn't receive the fairytale finish as the Magpies triumphed by 40 points.
• Arguably his finest performance of the season was in the Semi Final against Carlton when - despite carrying a strained hamstring into the match - he led his side into the second week of the AFL Finals. It was a typical warrior-like performance from the Lions champion.
• He once again led the Club in key stats categories such as contested possessions, hard ball gets and clearances.

• His feats were recognised by the umpires at the 2009 Brownlow Medal where he finished equal fourth with team-mate Jonathan Brown behind eventual winner Gary Ablett. It was the third consecutive year that Black had finished in the top five of the AFL's highest individual honour.

• He finished Runner-up in the Club Champion award behind Captain Jonathan Brown for the second consecutive season but also took home the Courier Mail Player of the Year award (for the fourth time) and the Lions Players' Player of the Year award which was voted by his team-mates. http://www.lions.com.au/players/playerprofile/simonblack/tabid/5189/playerid/13986/category/senior/season/2009/selected/bio/default.aspx

[christicehurst]

UPDATE: Another Spanner write up!

[brandon]

i would have loved it if he had of won the brownlow last year

ahwell

him or browny or power or lappin will get it this year :P

[christicehurst]

I can't believe we haven't said much about our Blacky!

[dannigirl lionheart]

I know!!! :o Poor form! Blacky is the ultimate footballer, both awesome on and off the field.

[Spanner]

UPDATE: Another Spanner write up!


I'll be putting them together as quickly as possible. Anyone who wants to assist, let me know.

Oh, and go Simon!

[christicehurst]

Love him to earn a Brownlow again or a 4th Flag ;D

[the_champ33]

Simon Black is an absolute legend. He's super consistent and always racks up the posessions, Being a lefty helps increase his talent too. :P

Norm Smith medalist in 2003 GF and collected 39 posessions that match.

Always seems to break most taggers. Kane Cornes is probably the one that shuts him down most from memory.

A rarely injured man which is also superb.

1999 Premlinary Final Black was taken out intentionally because he was going to help us win the game. He copped a fractured eye-socket which required an immediate visit to the hospital.

Black came so close to the Brownlow last season. He's worth putting money on again.

[Spanner]

Much as I'd love to see Blacky get it, I'd be more excited to see one of the other boys who haven't already gotten it to have a go.

[christicehurst]

Black was the first mid field goal kicker I have seen in a while. I think with Power and Adcock our midfield did well with the goal kicking.

[Spanner]

Power and Adcock are probably pipping Black for goalkicking ability, I am thinking.

[christicehurst]

Power and Adcock are probably pipping Black for goalkicking ability, I am thinking.


The first couple rounds I saw Black trying hard to kick a goal. He finally made one on Friday night.

[the_champ33]

Simon Black turns 29 this Thursday April 3

[christicehurst]

Happy birthday Black!

[Spanner]

A big happy birthday to Simon! Let's give him a present to remember on Saturday.

[Lady Luck]

The thing I love about Simon Black is he's such a damn good footballer, he's a nice bloke off field and quite unassuming and he's easy on the eye. Complete package really.

[Spanner]

The thing I love about Simon Black is he's such a damn good footballer, he's a nice bloke off field and quite unassuming and he's easy on the eye. Complete package really.


He's deadset one of the nicest guys I've ever met. The first time I met him was when I was at a club function with my then-girlfriend who didn't follow or enjoy football (we're no longer together). He was such a gentleman with her even though she clearly was a bit nonplussed about the whole thing.

[christicehurst]

I hope your new girlfriend enjoys footy!

[Spanner]

Of course.

[the_champ33]

I've met Simon Black @ the airport a couple of times and he's definitely a nice bloke and friendly. I found most of them friendly and happy to sign for you. All helped me smile that I met them especially living in a different state.

[Spanner]

I've met Simon Black @ the airport a couple of times and he's definitely a nice bloke and friendly. I found most of them friendly and happy to sign for you. All helped me smile that I met them especially living in a different state.


That's really great. It must be hard sometimes being nice and polite to all these people when you just want to go home and put the feet up. But with Simon, you never feel like you've got less than his full attention.

[the_champ33]

Amazing game! One of his best. Great form. He'll keep it up. I'm glad I placed money on him for the Brownlow @ the end of Round 1. Good potential and a winning team helps.

[Spanner]

That was by far and away his best effort this season so far. Much more of that and he'll definitely walk off with a second Charlie.

[the_champ33]

Definitely his best game of the season.

[christicehurst]

Confirmed Black is out of the Geelong match - No word on the injury.

[Spanner]

Confirmed that Black has Osteitis Pubis, early stages. He'll be carefully managed.

[christicehurst]

That's bad news, how long will he last for the season?

[the_champ33]

Thankfully the club medical staff have caught it early, however a timetable return is difficult with this injury.

Early scenariro which Simon has is simply rest and access. This can sometimes be 4, 6 or 8 weeks later.

Worst case option is always surgery.

It's really wait and see material unfortunately.

Our midfield looks a bit weak without Black and Johnstone especially talking experience wise.

[christicehurst]

So he's out of the game until it's healed. No reduced time such as playing for three quarters or even half a game?

[the_champ33]

No I doubt it, this will just aggrovate the injury a lot more and make it worse. This will also cause the need for more surgery.

As I said before, if detected early, it's simply a matter of resting and accessing.

If it was finals time, he might be able to play through it, but it gets worse.

Brown played with it a few years ago and it only gets worse. This is one injury you'd prefer to avoid and never experience.

It's basically inflamation of the pubic bone.

[Spanner]

If it was Round 20, 21, 22 - Black would play. He'd just be uncomfortable through the week. You'd play them through it and then get surgery through the off season. But this early, your best bet is rest.

[christicehurst]

Rest would be the key. Let's hope he will return soon.

[the_champ33]

osestis-pubis is an injury you can't mess around with. It'll probably be best to rest and ease him through until finals time. During finals he can play with pain and discomfort.

[Spanner]

If this is easing through, I'd shudder to see Black at full powers this year!

[christicehurst]

Black's on Brownlow alert I believe.

[Spanner]

Oh, easily. He's always a smokey too - so you could get some fine odds on him if you are that way inclined.

[christicehurst]

His neck is going to feel if he wins another Brownlow with those Preimership medals.

[the_champ33]

He's always a smokey for the Brownlow. I'm spewing I didn't waste money on him last year as he finished 2nd or 3rd.

I placed Brownlow money on him this year @ the start of the season when he was @ odds of $26. The recent good form has seen him drop to as low as $9.

I'm hoping for a pay out after the Brownlow.

[the_champ33]

When I played footy in 2001, I wore jumper #20 because of Simon Black. Every week in the lockeroom I made sure to make it my number and always said "Simon Black will be a superstar". How correct I have been, yet he's still under-rated by opposition @ times. However the retirements of Vossy etc have given him more attention since.

I started to admire Black from season 1999 which was Lethal's first year as coach. The love and admiration has taken off since.

[christicehurst]

Good story. So Leigh, are you Leigh Matthews??

[the_champ33]

Leigh is my first name and I was named after the coach.

[christicehurst]

Leigh is my first name and I was named after the coach.


Alright Leigh, I'll keep the secret ;)

[Spanner]

Hope you get some money then Champs!

[the_champ33]

Same here, but we'll wait and see.

[Spanner]

With the MSB coming up, it may be wise after last night to give Simon a rest for the next game and the week after that to manage his OP.

[the_champ33]

True. Seeing him receive treatment last night to the right groin caused concern. We need Simon for the long run and finals. Thankfully we have depth to cover. Brennan might get another midfield opportunity to captalise on last nights form

[christicehurst]

Even resting him for the next match might be the way to go. Two weeks would be good.

[the_champ33]

See what the club do. Maybe recovering since post-game til this weekend could turn out to be fine.

[Spanner]

Maybe, but the nature of OP is to flare up like that and generally, rest is the only treatment. We're well placed at the moment in that we can give Black two weeks rest while only missing one game, and not what you'd call a crunch game at that.

[christicehurst]

I have faith that Black will be around for the finals. I believe things will be right.

[Spanner]

To have him right for finals, he has to be properly managed through the home and away season.

[the_champ33]

That might mean the stationery handball drills during the main training sessions. Vossy had to do it because his knees were that bad. Browny and others go through the phase.

We have some of the best medical staff and advice going around. Black shall be nursed. Lethal isn't stupid and knows Black is a key required player. They won't risk Black.

[Spanner]

Absolutely Champs. The medical team know what they're doing.

[the_champ33]

Past and present players under the Lethal era can vouch for it.

Akermanis has complimented the medical staff in his book especially the Popov.

Mal Michael complimented them too and kept him quite injury free. Mal was extremely injury prone @ the Pies.

[worbsy]

He'll dominate this week, and then come back after the week off and be right for the rest of the season i reckon. He's a superstar.

[the_champ33]

I've been saying that since 2001.

When I played footy in 2001, I wore #20 and said every week in that locker room it was due to Simon Black and that he'd be a future superstar.

How correct I was.

[worbsy]

I had his number 20 on my Brissy jumper, which I got as a kid. He's still underrated, why do people not class him up there with Judd, Kerr, Ablett, etc.. ?

[the_champ33]

Probably because he's playing in Queensland away from the crazy papparazzi life of Melbourne.

But I've always considered Black amongst the elite of the competiton and in the category of the blokes you've mentioned.

[christicehurst]

Black is the classiest player I seen out of many and is always very solid which helps him.

[the_champ33]

Not just classy, extremely clean with his skills. The accuracy is there.

One of the best and smoothest handballs I've ever seen.

[worbsy]

He would have to be one the best in and under clearance players there are...
You never think that he has 30+ possessions almost every game because so many of them are contested, under the pack handballs which result in clearances.

[the_champ33]

The other thing that baffles me is his lack of injuries over the many years considering his regular in and under play and always on the ball.

[worbsy]

Well he has OP now, which isn't a good injury at all. Not that there are any good injuries. Haha.

Interesting fact, Simon Black leads the entire comp in clangers this year...

WTF is happening at Brisbane for him to have such poor skills this year?

[brandon]

is a clanger a turn over?

[christicehurst]

Not sure, but it's a stuff up alright

[worbsy]

Yeh, a clanger is a turnover. And Luke Power has been just as bad with them tonight against Essendon. We don't deserve to play finals this year.

[christicehurst]

Both were terrible tonight. Unbelievable.

[brandon]

i think we deserve finals but we need to lift in order to earn a spot in the 8

[worbsy]

We don't deserve it on current form, but I spose, do the teams below us deserve it?

Two very poor losses in a row now.

[christicehurst]

Kangeroos maybe, The Blues and Saints - don't know.

[brandon]

see id be more inclined to say the saints deserve a spot rather than the blues or the kangas

but the lions deserve a spot most
not just for the players but for the loyal suporters who have stuck out the hard years after the glory years

[christicehurst]

We deserve a finals match based on the fact to prove to supporters we are on the right track. Give the young players whatever experience they can muster out of a finals game. Give them a taste of it, only a little and they play harder next year.

[brandon]

whos to say if we made the finals we couldnt get a win or have a couple of wins

all we ave to do is make the finals then teh sky is the limit

[worbsy]

Me, I'll say it. LOL.
We just lost to Melbourne and Essendon... That's not a side that can win games come finals time.

Hopefully we get back on track next week.

Black is doing the hard work, but he isn't being rewarded by his disposal. Maybe the OP is part of that...

[brandon]

look its oveas the whole team isnt 100% at the moment

alot of injury is amongst the club

but if we can win about 2 of our next 3 games it sould be able to put us in a posiion to consolidate our spot in the 8

and maybe by that time our big name player will be back to 100%

[Spanner]

It seems pretty obvious that Simon's OP is really affecting his disposal at the moment. But to call his game last night terrible is a massive overstatement. He was good, he just wasn't Simon Black brilliant. But good is a long way from terrible.

[christicehurst]

How will we nurse him during the rest of the season. Someone here suggested to stick him in the forward line.

[worbsy]

I reckon the only spot for Black is in the middle, in the contests. He always takes the best opposition tagger when he's in the middle, freeing up Power, Johnstone, Adcock, etc. a bit. We don't want to lose that.

He's tough and has played with it all year, so I don't see why anything would need to change, unless it gets worse.

[the_champ33]

Black must remain in the midfield and keep doing what he does best. We just have to manage him and nurse him after that. He is playing hurt and hopefully it won't flare up badly that he has to be sidelined.

Didn't he hurt his shoulder last night?

[christicehurst]

That's the problem, no one can replace him in the midfield so we have to put up with the injury and see how it fares.

[the_champ33]

I read his shoulder injury is ac joint related which could mean anything. Definitely require surgery at some stage though

[worbsy]

He'll be a sore boy this week. I'm kind of expecting him to miss this week. And Dalziell/Proud to come in.

[the_champ33]

I think he'll miss a week at least.

[christicehurst]

I think he'll miss a week at least.


Who to replace him then?

[the_champ33]

Proud slots in @ his position perfectly even though we already think he'll be in.

Harding maybe?

[worbsy]

Dalziell for me.

[christicehurst]

Proud or Dalziell two good choices.

[worbsy]

I think both should play personally. Proud has earned his spot all year, no doubt. Dalziell, I just wanna see him play, but he's been doing very well in the reserves too.

Those numbers in the WAFL have got me hopeful with Dalziell.

Awesome name too.

[christicehurst]

Both would be great but I'm not unsure about what Leigh will do if Black is out for this week.

[worbsy]

I reckon out of Brown and Black, Black is the one I would least expect to play, even though that corked hip Browny got was a shocker. The fact that Black is battling OP as well as injuring a shoulder makes him pretty unlikely to play from where I sit.

[the_champ33]

I feel the same way

[worbsy]

injuryupdate.com estimates him and brown to play this week, and it's generally pretty accurate. Hope both get up, I reckon they'll both be named to play, but Black may be a late withdrawal.

[the_champ33]

I expect Brown to play and Black to withdraw.

[worbsy]

Well he's been named, so that's good. Proud is 1st emergency, so win-win really.

[the_champ33]

I reckon Black will withdraw and Proud to enter. Either way still a good entry

[christicehurst]

I reckon Black will withdraw and Proud to enter. Either way still a good entry


I'm not too fussed. It can give Black a rest with his long term OP.

[the_champ33]

True, but the hard Gabba surface doesn't help and he's a natural on-baller. It will still bite sometime, still a week off will make a difference.

[christicehurst]

Played very well tonight and great to see him back in form despite his injury issues.

[worbsy]

This guy is a FREAK!

80% game time, 27 possessions. 18 CONTESTED and 14 CLEARANCES!!!!!

WOW... also 5 tackles and 5 inside 50's. He is certainly still a big chance for the Brownlow Chris!

[christicehurst]

I hope he can win it.

[the_champ33]

I want him to win so i can win some money

Lol!

$26*5=

[christicehurst]

A fair bit of money there Champ. Did anyone notice if Black was having trouble with his injuries?

[the_champ33]

It's definitely a good payout if I win.

Simon always keeps the injuries discreet, look @ his posession count to back it up

[worbsy]

18 contested possies and 14 clearances while playing with OP and a buggered shoulder... that is the work of an absolute champion.

[christicehurst]

18 contested possies and 14 clearances while playing with OP and a buggered shoulder... that is the work of an absolute champion.


A champion indeed.

[the_champ33]

Legend
Future Hall of Famer

Brownlow Winner
Norm Smith Winner

Will he be the most under-rated ever to have won these awards?

[christicehurst]

Other supporters know he is a superstar.

[the_champ33]

He still receives mentions of being under-rated.

Simon Black is the best looking player in the AFL too.

[worbsy]

Those who know what they are talking about when it comes to AFL acknowledge how much of a champion he is.

That's what matters.

[the_champ33]

and he's good looking

[worbsy]

and he's good looking


Champ, WTF?

This has to stop. As do the facials, waxing, moisturising, menstruating, etc...

LOL

[the_champ33]

I don't think so.

Waxing and facials must go on.

[worbsy]

Spose nothing I can stay will stop you, eh?

[the_champ33]

Something like that and the same goes for me daring you.

Hehehehe

Mutual feelings

[worbsy]

Not wrong there, lol

[worbsy]

Simon Black is the best looking player in the AFL too.


Talk to Hayley... I have a feeling she'll disagree :)

[the_champ33]

Brown has more sun damage to his face compared to Simon

[worbsy]

Brown has more sun damage to his face compared to Simon


LOL

[christicehurst]

You mean people lol

[worbsy]

You mean people lol


I was laughing at Champ, not with him. LOL. In good spirit of course, Champ.

It that even meaner than mentioning 'sun damage'?

[the_champ33]

Worsby!

I know you were laughing @ me in good spirit and I don't mind.

I like sharing laughs with people over stupid things.

[worbsy]

No worries Champ....

LOL

[worbsy]

Will get the Kane Johnson tag I would think. Black will trance him.

[christicehurst]

Black will do well. Come on Blacky, your BLUM is in danger.

[worbsy]

He'll get it I reckon. If he can play like he did last week when he ISN'T injured, he's just about a certainty.

[the_champ33]

Black is a tough bloke and he likes milky bars

[worbsy]

Thats an insightful little piece of information... Maybe those milky bars are weakening him, causing all his injuries, lol

Needs to eat Mars Bars. It'll fix everything.

Aker eats a packet of salt and vinegar chips, and a chomp, after every game.

[christicehurst]

Milky Bars are nice to eat.

[the_champ33]

I pointed out the milky bar as when I met him @ Adelaide Airport once that's what he was eating.

[worbsy]

lol, I'm surprised Chris hasn't questioned the topic yet ;)

It's completely relevant though, Chris...

And yes, Milky Bars are quite tasty...

[the_champ33]

Black should have a good game this week and keep his good looks.

That should stir up Worsby

[worbsy]

lol, I don't see why he'd change how he looked after a game....

Spose he could get a fractured cheekbone or something.

That'd better not happen BTW!

[the_champ33]

He's received a fractured eye socket before way back in 1999. One of the Roos took him out knowing he was starring in that Preliminary Final.

Definitely better not happen again or similiar.

Hirdy still scrubs up alright after his faced was reconstructed.

[worbsy]

Hirdy? He still needs his ears pinned back a bit...

[the_champ33]

His cheeks and facial features were car accident busted. He's looking good.

If Hirdy needs his ears fixed, then so does Gilly.

[worbsy]

Gilly does need his fixed, so there ya go :)

[the_champ33]

I say leave them.

I like catapilla eyebrows on women

[worbsy]

LOL, do you like sideburns and a beard on them too? Haha

[the_champ33]

I don't mind a little mo, goatie or soul-patch.

side burns is too much

[worbsy]

I don't mind a little mo, goatie or soul-patch.


lol, your gold digging ways could lead you to a nice 93 year old lady with all that :D

Win-Win, hey Champ?

[the_champ33]

Yeah, the potential is there.

I just hope she waxes her chilli @ least.

[worbsy]

Yeah, the potential is there.

I just hope she waxes her chilli @ least.


Don't need details Champ, just get the cash and get out of there.

[worbsy]

Played with a bleeding nose all night and still have a big impact. CHAMPION.

[worbsy]

A rough night for Black given the blood nose he ran with all night. Still played 82% of the game, made 6 tackles, got a game-high 7 clearances, and had 22 disposals of which 8 were contested.

He does this every week, what a champ.

[the_champ33]

Has or almost ready to sign a 2 yr deal to remain a Lion. Puts the WA rumours to rest to join Vossy @ the Eagles + return home.

[worbsy]

Glad he's sealed in to the club now. One big player less to worry about. Risky is the next I want signed. Browny will take a while still I reckon. He should sign on for 4 years though eventually.

[Jedstheman]

Glad he's sealed in to the club now. One big player less to worry about. Risky is the next I want signed. Browny will take a while still I reckon. He should sign on for 4 years though eventually.

Risky has to stay we need him should offer him a three year deal similar to the one that Onehand got last year...... Browny will stay

[worbsy]

Risky is happy to stay at Brisbane, that's a great thing. I really want McGrath to stay now!
OMFG, can't believe that.... Moody should stay too. He was a no.10 draft pick I think, we can't give that away!

[worbsy]

Risky is happy to stay at Brisbane, that's a great thing. I really want McGrath to stay now!
OMFG, can't believe that.... Moody should stay too. He was a no.10 draft pick I think, we can't give that away!

[christicehurst]

Our first BLUM Winner!

[brandon]

congrats blacky

you earned it

chris are you gunna send him aletter to let him know he won

[christicehurst]

That's a good question. We might do that!

[b_lions16]

Risky is happy to stay at Brisbane, that's a great thing. I really want McGrath to stay now!
OMFG, can't believe that.... Moody should stay too. He was a no.10 draft pick I think, we can't give that away!


Moody hasn't been good. Should let him go for a better bloke. :p

[the_champ33]

Black is so good looking

[worbsy]

Black is so good looking

Not again. Champ, this has to stop.

Save it for the 'man-crush' thread.... actually, Chris, make a man-crush thread for Champ. lol

...and yes, Magnet may get a mention there...

[Jedstheman]

Not again. Champ, this has to stop.

Save it for the 'man-crush' thread.... actually, Chris, make a man-crush thread for Champ. lol

...and yes, Magnet may get a mention there...
Chris do not make a man crush thread as it will be the only thread posted in from now on I would be there all nite as would many but i will not name names.

[worbsy]

*cough*Garner*cough*

[christicehurst]

Here we go again!

[brandon]

is there really a man crush thread
\
if so
i think i might pass on that one

[worbsy]

No, there isn't (that I know of)...

Surely there's a player you have a man-crush on Brandon.... I'd suggest Brennan.

[worbsy]

No, there isn't (that I know of)...

Surely there's a player you have a man-crush on Brandon.... I'd suggest Brennan.

[b_lions16]

Sherman seems more the man.

[Jedstheman]

Simon Black was given a 6.9 ranking for the year by insidefootball

[worbsy]

Thats a pretty high average from them. He's been really good all year and easily our B&F, followed by Power.

[Jedstheman]

Thats a pretty high average from them. He's been really good all year and easily our B&F, followed by Power.
Yeah not a bad score from those eyed Vic thugs that give out the score honstely worbs I hate inside footy and only really get it for the letters and mainline (Jim Main cracks me up)but the rest of it is all about the Vic teams rarely do you see good lions stories but in saying that i will be buying it next week and the week after that there draft issue when they profile all the players is good...... looking forward to reading that.

[the_champ33]

Looked gorgeous and like a million dollars on Brownlow night.

Luke Power was missing from the group, but he's too sun damaged.

[worbsy]

Champ, why don't you just marry him? lol

[b_lions16]

ahhhhh. THE MAN-CRUSH CONTINUES!!!

[worbsy]

Yeah, but Champ's man-crush on Black goes too far... its not professional.

[christicehurst]

Yeah, but Champ's man-crush on Black goes too far... its not professional.

How's Magnet looking?

[worbsy]

Bloody sensational. Gonna tear it up this pre-season and win our B & F next year

[worbsy]

Watching yhe 2002 Grand Final in the grand final marathon atm.... Black was awesome.

[the_champ33]

Black is consistencly awesome.

Don't forget he almost had 40 posessions on the 2003 GF.

[worbsy]

Don't forget he won a Brownlow and could/(should?) have won a couple more!

[the_champ33]

Simon Black has one of the greatest resumes of all-time in footy

Club B&F
Brownlow (couple more almost & still chance for another)
Premiership player 3 times
Norm Smith 2003


List just grows. If you want to be silly throw in all the media awards from tv, newspapers etc

[christicehurst]

How dare you forget the BLUM :)

[the_champ33]

List just grows. If you want to be silly throw in all the media awards from tv, newspapers etc


How dare I not include BLU?

I believe this last line covered that

[b_lions16]

Reckon he'll get another B&F

[Jedstheman]

Driving home today the radio report was simon black has signed on with the lions it is belived to be a two year contract.

[christicehurst]

There was a thread about that. Good to see Black all signed up. Surprising there wasn't much talk about it. I guess Brown took the heat off him.

[worbsy]

There was talk a while ago, but then it seemed he was happy to re-sign with the lions.

But now that its official, that's awesome. I could never see him leaving though, even less so than Brown.

[Jedstheman]

Lost the B&F by 2.5 damn that must hurt blacky after the brownlow.

[worbsy]

This is a crap result. Black should have won it for sure. Browny wasn't THAT good this year, definitely no better than Black.

[Jedstheman]

Yeah Browny was good but Black was better i feel a little let down with blacky being runner up last nite and in the brownlow it must be hard finishing second.

[b_lions16]

It was a close call. Browny only won by 2.5 votes.

[the_champ33]

I think Black should have won.

Shocked Brown won.

[christicehurst]

That's disappointing. Tired of seeing him runner up all the time. I guess now he knows how Power feels!

[worbsy]

If you give what he did all year and not win the B & F, it's getting ripped off.

[christicehurst]

If he's well and back to normal next year, he should win something.

[the_champ33]

He should be fine, it's the Gabba surface that continues to remain a worry.

[lions_girl_4life]

I love Browny but cmon how can Browny be so far down on the Brownlow tally and win it but theres Black leading up until the second last round and its bloody second again.

[christicehurst]

I think there's bias voting happening.

[Jedstheman]

It was one of the conditions of Browny re-signing I think that and and tuesday nights off training to go watch the dish lickers run.

[worbsy]

Yep, had to be to help keep him at the club!

[lions_girl_4life]

I could never imagine Browny going to another club.

[worbsy]

I sorta could when they talked him up to go to Collingwood... but I knew he was one of those old-fashioned, loyal one-club players

[lions_girl_4life]

I would have freaked out if he went to Collingwood!!!!

[lions_girl_4life]

Blacky is one of the players I look up to the most. He is fair but hard playing. If he does do something wrong that the umpy gets him for, he won't step over the mark or go off at the umpy. He isn't one to get into fights. He isn't one to get caught in 'mischief' on or off the field. As far as I know he is nice to supporters. He likes his time without the camera's around him. This is difficult for anyone of his calibre. He isn't often in the limelight, only really when he finally gets recognaised with an award. You don't see him in the news that often, except on big wins and just think he is a Norm Smith Medallist, Brownlow Medallist, 3 Time Premiership Player............
He is the one most kids should aspire to be like.

[worbsy]

And two time Brownow-medal runner-up!

And yet he's still so underrated...

[Jedstheman]

Blacky is one of the players I look up to the most. He is fair but hard playing. If he does do something wrong that the umpy gets him for, he won't step over the mark or go off at the umpy. He isn't one to get into fights. He isn't one to get caught in 'mischief' on or off the field. As far as I know he is nice to supporters. He likes his time without the camera's around him. This is difficult for anyone of his calibre. He isn't often in the limelight, only really when he finally gets recognaised with an award. You don't see him in the news that often, except on big wins and just think he is a Norm Smith Medallist, Brownlow Medallist, 3 Time Premiership Player............
He is the one most kids should aspire to be like.
2004 grandfinal simon black reported for striking got acouple of weeks I think........ blacky gives as good as he gets and when he does get whistled your rite he keeps his mouth shut and never crosses the line and copps an extra 50.

[lions_girl_4life]

Didn't know he got reported. I only really supported the lions since I got into footy back in 05. (Just past the Golden Era:(:(:(:(:()

[Jedstheman]

No worries we all think Blacky is pure class lions girl.

[lions_girl_4life]

second that. perfect role model.

[worbsy]

Saw in the paper we were the only club to not have anyone suspended this year. That's awesome.

[lions_girl_4life]

That's bloody terrific! Shows we play hard but fair (unlike Barry Hall lol)

[christicehurst]

How far we have come from the 2004 GF!

[lion4life]

noone suspended wow.

[lions_girl_4life]

That's rare! Anyway, good on us!

[worbsy]

We had 4 players reported, which is the equal least of all clubs.
I think the hawks had 13!!!

Merrett has 93 carry-over points though, the most of any player, but they go away round 2.

[worbsy]

We had 4 players reported, which is the equal least of all clubs.
I think the hawks had 13!!!

Merrett has 93 carry-over points though, the most of any player, but they go away round 2.

[lions_girl_4life]

Yea, but the fact we all got cleared is still a feat

[worbsy]

Yeah, I was surpised when I read it, but then I thought about it and now that Charmo and Brown have both settled down, we aren't a very phsyically aggressive side now, outside of tackling.

[lions_girl_4life]

Yeah, I was surpised when I read it, but then I thought about it and now that Charmo and Brown have both settled down, we aren't a very phsyically aggressive side now, outside of tackling.
tackling fairly though :)

[Jedstheman]

Brown still scares just with his presence as does Charmo what we need is for one Jay Sherman to lose the "Man Tan" and man the F up and belt someone well good hip and shoulder with there head over the ball cop a couple of weeks so the guy he is taggin each week is then in two minds when attacking the ball.
This might sound a little unsportsman like but if any one can recall the game in 07 Vs the doggies Jed deadset smashed Ryan Griffen he did his ACL in the tackle and gets done for holding the ball...... in the replay in slow mo you see Jed can see griffen is hurt and he doesn`t cough the ball straight up but Jed just grabs him picked him up and smashed back down it was so brutal we need to do shit like that more the hawks do and get away with it so why don`t we try?

[worbsy]

They don't get away with it THAT much, they had 13 players reported!

[worbsy]

I'm a big fan of Griffen so I didn't like seeing him get injured. But if we can legally hurt someone that's tearing us apart, like Judd, I won't complain :)

[the_champ33]

Black copped 3-games in the 2004 GF for striking + he missed games anyway due to an ankle injury.

Before that he copped a fine once for participation in a melee Vs Essendon. Instead of breaking it up, he joined in, which was rare that day.

Otherwise Black is a clean fair player. Never abuses or yells @ an umpire

[lions_girl_4life]

Still one of the most respectable players in the AFL

[worbsy]

Didn't he get charged with kicking somebody in a pub brawl last year or the year before? Along with Voss, Steve Lawrence and someone else that I can't remember...

[b_lions16]

Vossy got into a fight.

[worbsy]

There were a few of them involved and Black was one of them.

[lions_girl_4life]

Yea but he still generally doesn't get into fights.

[christicehurst]

NEW Lions coach Michael Voss has suffered the first setback of his debut campaign with ball magnet Simon Black succumbing to an ankle injury.
The 2002 Brownlow medallist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Black) and last year's runner-up initially suffered the injury last year and had hoped off-season rest would solve the problem.

But the ankle has become sore during heavy November training and Black had to undergo minor surgery on Monday. He is expected to miss up to six weeks of running and will not be available to resume full training until the side re-convenes in January after a short break over Christmas.

It is the second year surgery has caused Black to miss a large chunk of the summer workload but, as he showed in his stellar 2008 season, he is capable of producing elite-level performances on limited preparation.

Black remains Brisbane's best midfielder and the key to their finals fortunes.

Spearheads Jonathan Brown and Daniel Bradshaw are both coming off superb seasons, but both rely on the hard ball Black routinely wins from the midfield.

Black recently told The Courier-Mail he had found the training regime under new coach Michael Voss as tough as any he had ever done, but was stimulated by some of the new exercises his former premiership-winning captain had introduced.

The AFL has granted the Lions permission for Nick Davis to continue training with the side, but they have yet to decide whether to invite the former Swan back for another block of pre-season after this week's boot camp on Couran Cove.

Brisbane has not sought AFL approval for fallen Eagle Ben Cousins, who's last shot at resurrecting his career appears to be through joining the Lions in next month's pre-season draft, to train with the side.


A injury to Black but shouldn't cut his season.

[worbsy]

He had OP all year and came 2nd in the Brownlow, so I don't see it as being too much of a problem. Of course Lappin's 'road to retirement' started with an ankle injury.

[Jedstheman]

He had OP all year and came 2nd in the Brownlow, so I don't see it as being too much of a problem. Of course Lappin's 'road to retirement' started with an ankle injury.
Lets not even go there Worbs........................... Blacky sit down keep to light duties untill you are ready to roll.

[b_lions16]

Vossy has come out and said that Blacky rolled it during a training drill. The medicos say it's nothing serious, but that he needs rest. He arrived at Training the afternoon, though he is on a light training regime.

[lions_girl_4life]

he better be back to his fabulous self by the start of the season.

[sportzo]

he better be back to his fabulous self by the start of the season.



dont worry he will!!!!!!!!!!

[lions_girl_4life]

dont worry he will!!!!!!!!!!
He will be fine, I know it.

[Jedstheman]

I do not see him playing to the final rounds of the Nab cup which is good cause he will be fresher at the seasons end.........blacky has been our fittest for a few years now well untill some guy called Bradd came along,but anyway he has a great fittness base so i do not see the point in flogging him over the summer lost of surfing would be good for him.

[b_lions16]

Surfing wouldn't be the best idea at this time. Gets smashed by a wave and could break his other ankle or his arm or leg.

[Jedstheman]

Surfing wouldn't be the best idea at this time. Gets smashed by a wave and could break his other ankle or his arm or leg.
Blacky is supposed to rip in the surf so I have seen and been told he doesn`t need no floaties dude.

[b_lions16]

Good enough to keep the sharks out? lol, nah, just kidding

[Jedstheman]

It has been 4 weeks since Blackie Hurt his ankle so this should mean he will start training up in the next couple of weeks which is a huge plus for us.

[lion4life]

FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

THE BRISBANE Lions are reeling after scans revealed premiership midfielder Simon Black suffered a broken hand at training on Monday night.

A club spokesman confirmed that Black had been ruled out for four to six weeks – which includes the Lions' entire NAB Cup campaign.

However, the expected lay-off suggests that the 29-year-old will be ready for the season opener against the West Coast Eagles on March 28.

Black was named as one of four vice-captains to Jonathan Brown in December, soon after he required minor surgery to an ankle injury that hampered his start to pre-season training.

He was then kept him from running at full pace in the lead-up to Christmas.

Black enjoyed one of the best seasons of his career in 2008, pushing through groin soreness to finish second to Western Bulldog Adam Cooney in the Brownlow Medal count.

He won the award in 2002.

The Lions are currently preparing for next Saturday's pre-season clash with St Kilda on the Gold Coast and, under new coach Michael Voss, are searching for their first finals berth since 2004.

Just Fuck

[b_lions16]

God Dammit...

On the flip side, he'll be playing in Round, so I don't reckon it's anything serious. It will rule him out of the NAB Cup though.

[worbsy]

There are no guarantees he'll be playing rd 1, Scotty. It says "the expected lay-off suggests that the 29-year-old will be ready for the season opener", and the term 'suggests' can't be taken as fact.

[b_lions16]

God Damn you Worbs....I'm tryna pump meself up and you piss on me parade....lol

[Jedstheman]

Lets think about this Blacky will be able to run so it will be okay as long as he is back by RD4 we should be fine the team showed last year that they could match it with an elite team minus Blacky Vs Geelong Rd5 I thinks.................. so other players should step the fuck up and carry the load Blacky has been for years.............he aint gunna be round forever so its time the likes of Jed,Risky,Selwood, and Proud (this will be the year he breaks loose)to start really shouldering the load in the middle............I think Blacky is the greatest player running around in the game I am not being biast but can anyone name a player who has done what he has in his career and is still playing? no Juddy is the only one who can come close He has the B&f`s he has the brownlow he has the norm smith but Blacky has 2 more flags Goodesy could have been but the swans won`t make it back to the promise land for many a moon................I guess what I am trying to say is don`t worry It is Blacky the great man will not let a broken hand slow him down trust me.:)
P.S I think he has done enough and is that valueable that why waste him in the nab the guy only knows how to play at one speed FLATOUT let him have his rest and save for the hame and away season and of course the finals.;)
TOP8IN09!!!!!!!!!!

[lions_girl_4life]

I couldn't have said it better Jedda. That is all so bloody true. Blacky is arguably the best mid in there at the moment. So close to a second Charlie (with a team that didn't make the finals :( .....) proves he hasn't lost his touch. It's time for the boys to step up. Now. Finger, Blacky, Big Guns and Browny won't be around forever.

[the_champ33]

Totally cursed

[christicehurst]

Terrible newds for Black but it's not the end of the world.

[lions_girl_4life]

That's true, it definately isn't the end of the world. I just hope he is ready for Rd 1!

[b_lions16]

There is a big chance he is gunna be ready for Round 1....it's nothin serious according to reports.
Blacky wasn't training with the Main Group today.

[the_champ33]

Due to the injuries experienced this pre season and hitting 30, I am worried and concerned if we'll start seeing more injuries from this key player.

Also on a betting point of view I am afraid to put money on him for the Brownlow right now due to these injuries. I'll sit and wait on this one.

Still an awesome player though

[b_lions16]

He's right for Round 1...but he's suffered injury in the past and still has managed to pull a great season. He's mighty underrated like Patful, I reckon. He's 8th on the Brownlow Betting @ $26 behind Ablett, Judd, Franklin, Brown, Bartel, Cooney and Pavlich.

[the_champ33]

It was those same odds that cost me 1 vote and a pay out in 2008.

2007 was a year I could and should have slapped the money down and didn't. Another close year.

I'm a little concerned now with the age now and given he's always been in the midfield and never really rested forward like others.

[b_lions16]

He's copped the hardest tag week in, week out. So he's been doing quite well finishing 2nd in the Charlie 2 years in a row. But Ablett will absolutely DOMINATE the Brownlow Voting, so I'll probably hit the cash down for him. ;)

[brisbanelions4life]

Blacky is the powerhouse of the midfield. he cops the hardest tag, has to cope with injury and can still rack em up like anyone else. Still got heaps left in the tank, wont be losing his best, anytime soon.

[b_lions16]

He'll never leave the Lions...untouchable. ;) Pushing for 3 years, he is, and is one of footy's MOST underrated. He cops the hardest tag, explaining the times he gets missing in games, but he racks 'em up like a champ, rocks it like a champ, and is a champ. :)